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Can anyone help? I have the marriage certificate of Thomas Smith and Ellen Dines married on 22 October 1923 in Wiltshire on which the writing is not easy to read. It appears that Thomas may be in the Royal Air Force'. His father is James his occupation being Rigger (Docks).. Thomas nd Ellen had a number of children: Edith -Dec 1923 Wiltshire, John Thomas Dec 1924 Sussex, Ella Sep 1927 Ashford, Rowland James 1937 Liverpool, Donald Stanly April 1939 Liverpool. I do have much information on the Dines family. I would welcome some help in finding his birth and the name of his mother and any other information there may be. I know this may be a long shot but I live in hope.
Thankyou in advance
RodEast
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Have you looked for him on the 1939 register to establish his full birthdate?
That type of info cannot be given here as Rootschat do not allow publication of 1939 info that is only available via subscription
If he died after 1969 his full birthdate will be on his death reg
Any actual age shown on the marriage cert?
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Can only add at present, death of Ellen
Name Ellen Sarah Smith
Death Age 83
Birth Date 2 Jan 1903
Registration Date Dec 1986
Registration district Croydon
Inferred County Greater London
Volume 11
Page 1437
at marriage to Thomas one witness was an Emily Smith.
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No luck with the 1939 regulaister
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What age was Thomas on marriage cert?
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22
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His abode was Figheldean and the marriage was at Steeple Ashton
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No luck with the 1939 regulaister
Have you found any of the family
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Wonder was he serving in WW2. Can only see Ellen & one child on the 1939
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Liverpool Echo 6th February 1947 Ellen Sarah Smith pleaded guilty to wilfully abandoning Donald Stanley Smith and Rowland James Smith - she was of no fixed abode
There is no mention of her husband
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1938 Liverpool electoral reg 85 Brasenose Road, Liverpool, Liverpool C.B.
Ellen S Smith at this address in 1939. Looks as though Thomas's parents could be James & Elizabeth.
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1938 Liverpool electoral reg 85 Brasenose Road, Liverpool, Liverpool C.B
Liverpool Daily Post, 15 April 1939
Thomas Smith, aged 38, tile maker, of 85 Brasenose Road, Liverpool, accused of attempting to break into a house in Chirkdale Street and of being in possession of housebreaking implements at night, was found not guilty and was discharged.
In the 1939 Register free index there may be a Thomas Smith, born 1.4.1901, Tile Maker?
Free address result is 62, 9 H M Prison Walton Hornby Road, Liverpool
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Thought I had the right guy. at that address in 1901 census.
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He can be found in last census at
Mount Vernon Hospital, Northwood, Uxbridge, Middlesex, England
added, death
Name Thomas Smith
Death Age 80
Birth Date 1 Apr 1901
Registration Date Apr 1981
[May 1981]
[Jun 1981]
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration district Liverpool
Inferred County Merseyside
Volume 36
Page 0770
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In the 1939 Register free index there may be a Thomas Smith, born 1.4.1901, Tile Maker?
Free address result is 62, 9 H M Prison Walton Hornby Road, Liverpool
Liverpool Evening Express, 11 July 1939, and other papers (free ocr text)
L’POOL MAN GAOLED FOR SHOPBREAKING Sentence of 18 months’ hard labour was passed on Thomas Smith, aged 37, tile maker, Brazenose-road, Liverpool, who pleaded guilty at Preston Quarter Sessions today to one charge of shopbreaking and two charges of attempted shopbreaking, all at Bootle. The first case concerned the shop of Hugh David Hughes, Stanley-road, Bootle from where prisoner stole goods valued at £39 7s 10d. The attempts were made at the shops of the Donegal Tweed Co., Ltd., and Boot’s Cash Chemists, Ltd. He was caught at Boot’s Chemists on June 1. Detective-constable Todd said when aged 18 prisoner was given a three years Borstal term, and he had many convictions since then in the Liverpool courts. Prisoner asked for thirty-one other offences to be taken into consideration, and Detective-constable Todd said the total value of the goods stolen was £172 7s 1d. The value of the goods recovered was ?
Is this the same guy?
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Can anyone help? I have the marriage certificate of Thomas Smith and Ellen Dines married on 22 October 1923 in Wiltshire on which the writing is not easy to read. It appears that Thomas may be in the Royal Air Force'. His father is James his occupation being Rigger (Docks).. Thomas nd Ellen had a number of children: Edith -Dec 1923 Wiltshire, John Thomas Dec 1924 Sussex, Ella Sep 1927 Ashford, Rowland James 1937 Liverpool, Donald Stanly April 1939 Liverpool. I do have much information on the Dines family. I would welcome some help in finding his birth and the name of his mother and any other information there may be. I know this may be a long shot but I live in hope.
Thankyou in advance
RodEast
I see you have been online since all that fabulous info has been posted, any comment, as you were only living in hope!!
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Absolute fantastic information and help from all who have given me their time and effort without which I would have not been able to move on. Living in hope has been far exceeded for which I am truly greatful.
Many thanks
RodEast