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Title: Wilkins Australia
Post by: xs on Friday 18 October 24 17:54 BST (UK)
I need some help to find out about 2 ancestors of mine from Victoria Australia. 
Bertie Harold Wilkins 1926-1977
Reginald Edward Wilkins 1930-? 
Parents:  Harold John Wilkins 1905-1964  Lucy Grace Davis 1901-1970
I'm trying to find out if they got married or if they had any children.  Thanks
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 18 October 24 19:59 BST (UK)
A tree on Ancestry shows Bertie died 3.10.1997 - not 1977 - Portland Victoria.  The tree mentions other siblings but not a Reginald Edward although it shows a sibling entry as “private”  & shows that person as living

If they married - any children may still be alive in which case no details can be given
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: maddys52 on Saturday 19 October 24 02:13 BST (UK)
findagrave has 1997 for Bertie Harold WILKINS.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/211531131/bertie-harold-wilkins
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: maddys52 on Saturday 19 October 24 02:20 BST (UK)
Bertie Harold WILKINS appears with his brother on the 1977 electoral roll at Edithvale, Victoria. There are 2 females at the same address - could be spouses of either. I don't want to put their names as not sure that they are not still living.

On the 1980 electoral roll at the same address are the 2 brothers and only 1 female.
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: xs on Saturday 19 October 24 17:07 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for your replies.  I found the electoral rolls and am certain that the one lady was Reginald's wife but can find no marriage for them.  Again, the same for Bertie.  I don't understand why I haven't been able to find the marriages as I've found one for a member of the same family who married a lot later.  I could be wrong but am guessing that it's highly unlikely their spouses would still be alive.  I haven't found death records for them either.  The search continues!
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: giblet on Saturday 19 October 24 19:46 BST (UK)
I haven't found death records for them either.  The search continues!

Maddys52 found Bertie's death on findagrave, he died 1997. You won't find a death index for him due to the cut off times.

Death   30 years after the date of death

Marriage and Registered relationship   60 years after the date of marriage or relationship registration

https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/information-restricted-specific-periods
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: xs on Saturday 19 October 24 20:00 BST (UK)
Okay.  Thanks
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: maddys52 on Sunday 20 October 24 06:06 BST (UK)
I could be wrong but am guessing that it's highly unlikely their spouses would still be alive. 

I went to a funeral last week for a friend who was born in 1920, so these people could well be still alive.  :)

There is a will and probate for a Joyce WILKINS who died in 1990 at Frankston - not too far from Edithvale.
https://prov.vic.gov.au/search_journey/select?keywords=wilkins%20joyce&iud=true

However, on the Vic BDM her spouse is given as Cyril Leonard SIGGINS (they married in 1946, he died in 1952). Perhaps there has been a typo somewhere?

Just a possibility.
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: xs on Monday 21 October 24 10:05 BST (UK)
Thanks Maddy
Joyce Wilkins is the lady who was at the same address as Reginald on the electoral rolls and on another with Bertie as well.  Will follow up your suggestion :)
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Thursday 24 October 24 04:44 BST (UK)
Reggie (birth name - aka Reginald) Edward WILKINS was born 11 Apr 1930 and died 29 Aug 2016.
He was cremated at Bunurong Memorial Park on 2 Sep 2016 and his ashes collected.

https://smct.org.au/deceased-search/4024583
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: xs on Friday 25 October 24 14:07 BST (UK)
Thank you, Merlin.  I can add this to my tree now :)
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 25 October 24 14:44 BST (UK)
Advertisement 19 September 2016.

Deceased name Reginald Edward Wilkins.

Take notice that * *, the oldest daughter of Reginald Edward Wilkins deceased, late of 8a Bapaume Avenue, Edithvale, Victoria, 3196, Australia will 14 days after publication of this advertisement apply to the Supreme Court of Victoria for a grant of administration of the estate of the deceased upon intestacy, there being no will of the deceased. * * * * * * Victoria 3197 Australia.

*Name and address removed due to privacy rules.
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: xs on Friday 25 October 24 14:57 BST (UK)
Ah, that helps a lot as it confirms that he had a daughter and I think I know her name.  :)
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 25 October 24 15:35 BST (UK)
He has a few children the name of eldest daughter who was named in the advertisement starts with 'J'.
Another daughter is 'D'.

Reggie and Bertie also had two sisters (half sisters going by the records).
They are both now deceased as are their husbands.
If you require their information that is available I can post it here.



Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: xs on Saturday 26 October 24 12:11 BST (UK)
That would be really helpful. Thank you for all your help
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Saturday 26 October 24 13:30 BST (UK)
Jean Myrtle WILKINS b. 10 Sep 1934; m. Robert Stanley NASH 1954; d. 13 Oct 2010.
Robert Stanley NASH b. 5 Mar 1931; d. 12 Jul 2007.

They are buried at Dimboola Cemetery:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/203443678

This is the same cemetery that her mother Lucy Grace (nee Davis) Wilkins is buried.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/203444378
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Saturday 26 October 24 13:33 BST (UK)
Thelma Joyce WILKINS b. 3 Jan 1936; m. Vincent Walter GRAMBAU 1955; d. 5 Jun 2021.
Vincent Walter GRAMBAU b. 2 Aug 1933; d. 17 Jun 2022.

They are buried at Swan Hill Cemetery:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/273230947
and
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/248732198

Funeral notices:
https://www.tavernafunerals.com.au/notices/mrs-thelma-joyce-grambau/
https://www.tavernafunerals.com.au/notices/vincent-walter-grambau/

Re: Estate of VINCENT WALTER GRAMBAU, deceased.
Creditors, next-of-kin or others having claims in respect of the estate of VINCENT WALTER GRAMBAU, late of 10 Milloo Street,Swan Hill, in the State of Victoria, pensioner, deceased, who died on 17 June 2022, are to send particulars of their claim to the executors, care of the undermentioned legal practitioners, by 22 November 2022, after which the executors will distribute the assets, having regard only to the claims of which they then have notice. JOLIMAN LAWYERS, 42 McCallum Street, Swan Hill, Victoria 3585.
Title: Re: Wilkins Australia
Post by: xs on Saturday 26 October 24 15:22 BST (UK)
You have gathered a lot of information for me to add to my tree.  Much appreciated