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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Cell on Friday 18 October 24 00:07 BST (UK)
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Hi,
Can anyone read what the witness names are please.
The first name I have always thought may say Daniel ? Mullen / Mullin ? Or Mc Mullen , but I am far from sure of that.
But the second name I just haven't a clue what it says at all, maybe a Wm ( William) something?
Thank you for any help.
The full cert is available here to read freely below at Irish genealogy ie :
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tgn/
Kind regards
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I think the same person has witnessed the last marriage on the page
William Mc(F?)adden?
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Maybe Daniel mc Mullen and William Wallace ? Regards Orkrad
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Thank you both,
I am not sure either way, McFadden, or Wallace, or something else completely different. These witnesses are probably not family members anyway if their siblings marriages are anything to go by.
I have just been searching my computer ( I suddently had a bright idea when reading my thread and your replies ) that maybe I had a transcription of the church marriage somewhere that I purchased from the Ulster foundation many years ago (ie not the civil record) that would give the witness names that they thought the church record reads of the witnesses , but sadly it seems I've not purchased that one from them, or at least I can't find it on my computer , I only have the civil
purchased from Groni, then later the free Irish Genealogy.
Kind regards
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The IrishGenealogy version is much clearer - and different. That is not exactly the same, word for word - it does not have the contractions.
In the IG version, the witnesses are very clearly:
Daniel McMullen and
William Wallace
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I see the surnames as McMullan and Wallace.
Regards
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The IrishGenealogy version is much clearer - and different. That is not exactly the same, word for word - it does not have the contractions.
In the IG version, the witnesses are very clearly:
Daniel McMullen and
William Wallace
Yes, the Irish Gnealogy version is much clearer.
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Thank you all , I just couldn't work out what that surname says , Wallace.
The witnesses don't appear to be family members but you never know.
Kind regards :)
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I have just been searching my computer ( I suddently had a bright idea when reading my thread and your replies ) that maybe I had a transcription of the church marriage somewhere that I purchased from the Ulster foundation many years ago (ie not the civil record) that would give the witness names that they thought the church record reads of the witnesses , but sadly it seems I've not purchased that one from them, or at least I can't find it on my computer , I only have the civil
Are you sure?
This was a Registry Office marriage, so there won't be a corresponding church record. And if they had married in church, then why would they need a Registry Office ceremony as well?
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I have just been searching my computer ( I suddenly had a bright idea when reading my thread and your replies ) that maybe I had a transcription of the church marriage somewhere that I purchased from the Ulster foundation many years ago (ie not the civil record) that would give the witness names that they thought the church record reads of the witnesses , but sadly it seems I've not purchased that one from them, or at least I can't find it on my computer , I only have the civil
Are you sure?
This was a Registry Office marriage, so there won't be a corresponding church record. And if they had married in church, then why would they need a Registry Office ceremony as well?
Of course, silly me lol. !! ;D No- wonder I couldn't find the church record that I thought I may have purchased from Ulster foundation on my computer!! Lol
I was wondering why I couldn't find the "missing" church record in my computer because that was so unlike me not to have bought the church record - But yet I knew they married in the reg office! Lol , gosh I must have been really tired .
I originally purchased the above civil marriage from GRONI years ago (I thought I also had a record of the marriage from their non existent marriage in a church too ! Lol).
Kind regards :)
Ps
Regarding church and reg office, I have one couple that married in both , they married in a church first, and later married again in the reg office, not that it was the case with the above couple at all ,- that was just me having a brain lapse lol.- I even spent an hour searching my computer trying to find the missing file! ;D lol
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Yes, there can be marriages recorded both in the Registry Office and church. One example in my area is from the local Reformed Presbyterian Church where the minister was not authorised by the civil authories to perform marriages so a couple had to also get married in the Registry Office. Interestingly enough, whenever such marriages were announced in the local newspaper the venue was the church (never the Registry Office).