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Hello People. I have applied for William Lewis Rees birth certificate, REES, WILLIAM LEWIS mothers maiden name WALTERS GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in BEDWELLTY Volume 11A Page 121
I can see that his is on 1881-1901 Census records with his parents (William and Naomi Rees - nee Walters) mainly in the area of Pengam, Bedwelty.
In 1911 and 1921 it's possible he is with a Lillian Rees (1921 census) but I have yet to confirm this. I've yet to search the Welsh Newspapers. If anyone can shed some light on this, I would be grateful.
Regards Elaine
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GRO search gives a son born 1910 mmn Davies.
If information on the census you mention is correct, then there should be a marriage c1908.
So far I cannot find a Lilly/Lillian Davies marriage to William Rees although she could have been married previously and given her birth surname on her son’s registration.
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Agree with Glencare - In 1921 they appear to have a number of sons born pre 1911 who were not living with them in 1911. Could these be from a previous marriage :-\
Kay
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Can I ask please if you are following the family line back from one of William’s children? If so is it Gordon or another child or a different route entirely?
The reason I ask is I have found records of a Gordon Rees born 1910 with a different Davies mother that may have links to a William Lewis Rees.
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An obituary for him says he had 3 sons and 3 step sons surname Collins, one being Gordon.
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Well found - so this could be his stepson from 1911 census
COLLINS, GORDON STANLEY MORGAN
GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in OF CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 467
And possibly the parents marriage
Marriages Sep 1898
Samuel Edgar Collins - Lillian Rose Morgan Pontypool 11a 170
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May William and Lilian have married after her first husband died??
Marriages Jun 1918
Collins Lilian Rees Cardiff 11a 775
Rees William Collins Cardiff 11a 775
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Hello Glencare. I have found a 1911 Census with William Lewis Rees - coal miner - hewer. From Pengam Monmouthshire. Wife Lilly Rees from Newport. Both aged 32. son Gordon Rees (1yo). The age of William fits and his place of birth. Regards Elaine
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Lillian Rose Morgan married Samuel Edgar Collins Sep 1998 Pontypool 11a 170.
They baptised 4 sons at Cardiff St Paul's Grangetown Cardiff 16 Dec 1909: Samuel Leonard. Leopold Albert, Percy Arthur and Gordon Stanley Collins.
11 Jan 1910 Western Mail reports that Lily Rose Collins of Clive street. Llanishen, applied for and got a separation and mainetnance order from her 1st husband who was living in Bertram Rd Hendon. Lily had returned home to her father's in Cardiff but husband had not sent any money to maintain them after losing hos job as a clerk in London. She also stated he had been violent towards her. He asked for and got custody of their eldest son who was probably Samuel Leonard Collins.
Presumably they must have divorced
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I think this is Lilian Rose Morgan and her first husband
Stanley
William W Holt 35 Head
Florence Holt 33 Wife
S E Collins 25 Boarder Commercial Clerk b Penarth
L R Collins 23 Visitor b Newport, Monmouthshire
S R Collins 1 Visitor b Cardiff
Kay
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In 1911 Samuel Edgar Collins was lodging in Greenwich with his eldest son Sydney
Emily Arkland 64 Head
William Saunders 26 Son In Law (Son-in-law)
Beatrice Saunders 25 Daughter
Samuel Collins 33 Boarder Clerk b Penarth
Sydney Collins 11 Boarder b Cardiff
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Thank you Kay99. Other people have also responded to me about William. I appreciate your input.
I have since learnt about a 1934 newspaper article regarding his death. It states that William's father in law L A Challicom was in attendance. That would suggest that Lillians birth name would be the same. Also in the article it mentions his step-sons Gordon Collins and Bert Collins.
In the 1921 census there is William and Lillian Rees with Sydney, Leonard, Bert, Gordon, William, Reggie, Cecil. I'm about to purchase a marriage certificate between William and Lillian which will hopefully point me in the right direction. Regards Elaine
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Hello People. I have applied for William Lewis Rees birth certificate, REES, WILLIAM LEWIS mothers maiden name WALTERS GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in BEDWELLTY Volume 11A Page 121
I can see that he is on 1881-1901 Census records with his parents (William and Naomi Rees - nee Walters) mainly in the area of Pengam, Bedwelty.
In 1911 and 1921 it's possible he is with a Lillian Rees (1921 census) but I have yet to confirm this. I've yet to search the Welsh Newspapers. If anyone can shed some light on this, I would be grateful.
Regards Elaine