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Title: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: bones5 on Saturday 12 October 24 15:51 BST (UK)
Hi,

I have just edged back another generation and wonder if Thomas Roberts, who married Sarah Bibby in 1796 in Cheshire is on the 1841 census? As he is listed as a carpenter on his marriage, it may be a bit easier to find him. He is probably born around 1770-1776.

I haven't looked for a death yet as I wanted to see if he and Sarah are on the census.

Thanks for any help. : )
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 12 October 24 15:59 BST (UK)
They married in Chester, did they stay there  :-\
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: bones5 on Saturday 12 October 24 16:18 BST (UK)
Hi rosie99 and thanks for your reply.

I don't know, sorry. I can ny assume they stayed near Chester or moved onto the Wirral, where family were. I just have the marriage and was hoping they did make it onto the 1841 census, so I have a rough birth date.
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 12 October 24 16:40 BST (UK)
Did they have children.  If so where were they born and where did they live
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: bones5 on Saturday 12 October 24 18:07 BST (UK)
I have a daughter Elizabeth baptised in 1799 in Chester, parents Thomas and Sarah Roberts.
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: amondg on Saturday 12 October 24 18:59 BST (UK)
How sure are you that you have the correct parents?

There is an Elizabeth Roberts 1798 to John and Mary. John is a Gardener
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: bones5 on Saturday 12 October 24 20:53 BST (UK)
I'm not 100% sure. I'm trying to get evidence together to check and make sure. I have Elizabeth Roberts born Parkgate from census and I'm trying to tie it all in. Where is the Elizabeth Roberts born with parents John and Mary?
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: amondg on Saturday 12 October 24 22:33 BST (UK)
Also in Chester.

St John the Baptist 4 March 1798
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: bones5 on Sunday 13 October 24 08:29 BST (UK)
Thank you. How can I be certain which one is correct? Or is it impossible? Daughter Elizabeth ended up on the Wirral or lived there as a child and was baptised in Chester, which is making it harder to determine her parents.

Thanks very much for all your replies.
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: amondg on Sunday 13 October 24 16:17 BST (UK)
What names did she give her children?
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: bones5 on Sunday 13 October 24 18:59 BST (UK)
Elizabeth named her children William, John, Martha, Edward, James, Thomas, Robert, Elizabeth and George.
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: amondg on Monday 14 October 24 02:55 BST (UK)
Who did Elizabeth marry ?

Perhaps the witnesses names will help.
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: bones5 on Monday 14 October 24 18:27 BST (UK)
She married William Benjamin Godfrey 30/7/1820 in Liverpool. I only have the transcription.
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: amondg on Tuesday 15 October 24 00:50 BST (UK)
FindMyPast has the marriage image.
He is just William Godfrey not William Benjamin Godfrey

The witnesses are Edward Coventry and Ambrose Place?

The entry on the same day for Thomas Moore?/Hoose? depending on transcription married Sarah Godfrey and has the same witnesses, so perhaps she is William's sister.
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: amondg on Tuesday 15 October 24 01:31 BST (UK)
Elizabeth says born Parkgate 1851 and 1861 so the nearest parish is Neston?
Title: Re: Census for Thomas Roberts, a carpenter
Post by: bones5 on Tuesday 15 October 24 12:51 BST (UK)
Apologies, yes you are right, it was as William only, not with his middle name, that he got married as.

Thank you for witness's names. At the moment they don't mean anything yet, but it's great to have them.

Yes, William had a sister Sarah, so this could be her marriage.

I haven't been able to find a suitable baptism for Parkgate or Neston unfortunately.