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Title: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: phillbrett68 on Wednesday 09 October 24 06:40 BST (UK)
hello Everyone i am after a Census Lookup for a George Henry Monk his Wife Emma in the Campbelltown area of New South Wales between 1831 and 1881 if at all possible any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
Title: Re: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 09 October 24 06:49 BST (UK)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/225242073?searchTerm=George%20Henry%20monk

Insolvent in 1863

Possible marriage.
Do you have the details from that? What are they?
https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search/result?4

924/1857 MONKGEORGEYOUNGEMMASYDNEY
Title: Re: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 09 October 24 06:59 BST (UK)
Are all these children theirs? Or only the Campbeltown ones?  Which (if any) is your ancestor?
What are the details on the birth cert?

MONK  AMELIA E 9386/1869 GEORGE HEMMACAMPBELLTOWN
Unavailable
 MONK  WILLIAM E 8054/1867 GEORGE HEMMACAMPBELLTOWN
Unavailable
 MONK  HENRY J N 7667/1865 GEORGE HEMMACAMPBELLTOWN
Unavailable
 MONK  PHOEBE 167/1862 GEORGE HEMMASYDNEY
Unavailable
 MONK  HONOR S 6754/1863 GEORGE HEMMACAMPBELLTOWN
Unavailable
 MONK  EMMA 1924/1859 GEORGE HEMMASYDNEY
Unavailable
 MONK  THOMAS S 6210/1860 GEORGE HEMMACAMPBELLTOWN
Unavailable
 MONK  JOHN N 1523/1858 GEORGE HEMMASYDNEY
Title: Re: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 09 October 24 07:04 BST (UK)
There isn't very much census information available for NSW :
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/New_South_Wales_Census
Title: Re: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 09 October 24 07:05 BST (UK)
Have you checked here?  https://guides.slv.vic.gov.au/earlycensus/nsw
Have only had a quick glance and am not knowledgeable about Aust records, but my inclination is to say you won’t find George on a census. Hopefully others will be along who can prove me wrong

Title: Re: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 09 October 24 07:13 BST (UK)


Possible marriage.
Do you have the details from that? What are they?
https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search/result?4

924/1857 MONKGEORGEYOUNGEMMASYDNEY

Daughter Phoebe lists George Henry MONK and Emma YOUNG as her parents on her marriage 7 May 1901.
Title: Re: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 09 October 24 07:20 BST (UK)
There is a George MONK at King St, Canterbury in 1891, with 3 males and 2 females in the household. Uncertain whether this relates to your George.
Title: Re: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 09 October 24 07:28 BST (UK)
Probably not.

His death notice in 1893 says of Liverpool:

"MONK - On October 31, at his residence, Liverpool, George Monk, 77 years. An old resident of Campbelltown. See Funerals"
The Daily Telegraph 1 Nov 1893
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/236128961
Title: Re: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 09 October 24 07:29 BST (UK)
And confirmed by friends of Phoebe Monk, invited to his funeral

 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/236128984?searchTerm=George%20monk
Title: Re: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 09 October 24 07:31 BST (UK)
Native of Plymouth, Devon

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13920305?searchTerm=George%20monk
Title: Re: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: phillbrett68 on Wednesday 09 October 24 08:23 BST (UK)
thanks everyone i had hoped for an address but it would appear i am out of luck but thanks for all the information its much appreciated
Title: Re: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 09 October 24 09:41 BST (UK)
Did George and Emma separate? Emma MONK appears to have run a boarding house in Bowral from at least 1887.
Signing a petition - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/112412367
Bankrupt in 1893  - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/112612473
Obituary in 1913 - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/113786750

(Amelia MONK appears to be the daughter who died in 1909 at Bowral, mentioned in Emma's obituary.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/117145578)
Title: Re: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 09 October 24 10:15 BST (UK)
There seem to be several men named George Henry Monk, and there is not enough information given in the opening post to work out who we are looking for.

George Henry Monk Insolvency 1863

https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/primo-explore/search?query=any,contains,George%20henry%20monk&tab=default_tab&vid=61SRA&offset=0



Title: Re: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 09 October 24 10:23 BST (UK)
thanks everyone i had hoped for an address but it would appear i am out of luck but thanks for all the information its much appreciated

If you looking for an address the birth certificate of a child in the relevant time scale should provide you with that.
Title: Re: Re Census Lookup in New South Wales between 1831 and 1881
Post by: phillbrett68 on Wednesday 09 October 24 10:56 BST (UK)
sorry i should have provided more information we are not aware that hes separated from Emma but he could have because of him going bankrupt it could have been for financial reasons George Henry Monk Born 1817 in  St Andrews Devon England not 1831 and died in 1893 he had 7 children Most stayed in around the Campbelltown area