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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: Blue-Spirit on Tuesday 01 October 24 20:49 BST (UK)
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Am in search for WWI service record or medal card for one Bertie Margrave bn 1889 Minister Kent, Have census for him but unable to locate him for war service. He survived the war and died in 1955, living in Plaistow East London. Thank you.
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Do you have some evidence he served? As a Railway Shunter he'd likely be exempt from service being in a reserved occupation.
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Do you have some evidence he served? As a Railway Shunter he'd likely be exempt from service being in a reserved occupation.
I agree with you - Exempt
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Do you have some evidence he served? As a Railway Shunter he'd likely be exempt from service being in a reserved occupation.
I agree with you - Exempt
Only evidence i have is here say from his granddaughter and very little is known, so will have to ask some more questions. I can understand he might well have been exempt, and she just remembers him in a uniform. Thanks.
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Do you have some evidence he served? As a Railway Shunter he'd likely be exempt from service being in a reserved occupation.
I agree with you - Exempt
Only evidence i have is here say from his granddaughter and very little is known, so will have to ask some more questions. I can understand he might well have been exempt, and she just remembers him in a uniform. Thanks.
That is Possible- I have during Soldier research that many failed Medicals but the Army accepted them to serve in Regts at Home in the UK helping the War Effort for 4 years but were therefore not entitled to any WW1Medal- so no Medal Index Card - there were Attestation Papers but in 1920 they were sent to Arnside Street Repository and didn't survive the Blitz so those Records were Destroyed and no longer exist.
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Bertie John Margrave married Lizzie Pratt December Quarter 1914
Was in UK 9 months before his Daughter Margaret was born West Ham March Quarter 1916
And in UK 9 months before Son Arthur G was born West Ham December Quarter 1918
And in UK 9 months before Daughter Joan S was born West Ham September Quarter 1920
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Do you have some evidence he served? As a Railway Shunter he'd likely be exempt from service being in a reserved occupation.
I agree with you - Exempt
Only evidence i have is here say from his granddaughter and very little is known, so will have to ask some more questions. I can understand he might well have been exempt, and she just remembers him in a uniform. Thanks.
That is Possible- I have during Soldier research that many failed Medicals but the Army accepted them to serve in Regts at Home in the UK helping the War Effort for 4 years but were therefore not entitled to any WW1Medal- so no Medal Index Card - there were Attestation Papers but in 1920 they were sent to Arnside Street Repository and didn't survive the Blitz so those Records were Destroyed and no longer exist.
Thank you kindly for your efforts and makes sense, believe it or not quite helpful to put this to bed... Regards.
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Bertie John Margrave married Lizzie Pratt December Quarter 1914
Was in UK 9 months before his Daughter Margaret was born West Ham March Quarter 1916
And in UK 9 months before Son Arthur G was born West Ham December Quarter 1918
And in UK 9 months before Daughter Joan S was born West Ham September Quarter 1920
That's great, i will pass this onto the lady, anything is better than nothing. Thank you for your efforts. All the best....
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Only evidence i have is here say from his granddaughter and very little is known, so will have to ask some more questions. I can understand he might well have been exempt, and she just remembers him in a uniform. Thanks.
How could his granddaughter have seen him in uniform in WWI? Do you mean a photograph?
Debra :)
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Only evidence i have is here say from his granddaughter and very little is known, so will have to ask some more questions. I can understand he might well have been exempt, and she just remembers him in a uniform. Thanks.
How could his granddaughter have seen him in uniform in WWI? Do you mean a photograph?
Debra :)
As i understand, she was very young and was a photograph but not in her possession, which might well have been a railway uniform. Very little details really. Thanks.
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I would agree with the others that he didn't serve overseas but
may have served at home.
The only way to know for sure would mean buying a birth cert.
for one of his children.
Shunters didn't wear uniforms however I notice in 1939 he's a railway guard
who did so this is how she probably remembers him.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/43dPLswX/83c6eab1-0e44-47de-a582-dca4199e0272.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Photo here is of Bertie
If you apply for the Birth Certificate of Bertie's Son - Arthur George Margrave December Quarter 1918 West Ham Vol 4a page 116 Mother's Maiden Name = Pratt
I bet you'll find the Occupation of the Baby's Father won't be "Soldier" but rather "Railway Shunter "
There is an Ancestry Tree that has Arthur George Margrave born 9 October 1918 in Army Uniform in WW2
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I would agree with the others that he didn't serve overseas but
may have served at home.
The only way to know for sure would mean buying a birth cert.
for one of his children.
Shunters didn't wear uniforms however I notice in 1939 he's a railway guard
who did so this is how she probably remembers him.
Thanks Jim, I believe you are right, it all fits in, so grateful for your pointers. Regards Tony.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/43dPLswX/83c6eab1-0e44-47de-a582-dca4199e0272.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Photo here is of Bertie
If you apply for the Birth Certificate of Bertie's Son - Arthur George Margrave December Quarter 1918 West Ham Vol 4a page 116 Mother's Maiden Name = Pratt
I bet you'll find the Occupation of the Baby's Father won't be "Soldier" but rather "Railway Shunter "
There is an Ancestry Tree that has Arthur George Margrave born 9 October 1918 in Army Uniform in WW2
Gosh she will be so pleased with that, I am not on any of the payment Ancestry websites now as its becoming very expensive, but might well make a trip to the library. Many thanks for your help, pretty sure all has come together with the uniform etc. Kind regards Tony.