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Title: Information on "Lloyd and Co" drapers in Liverpool 1870s
Post by: stevelord65 on Monday 30 September 24 05:15 BST (UK)
Hi. I'm wanting to do a deep dive into the life of my gr gr grandfather John Lloyd. I've found from the Liverpool directories that he had a drapers business in Liverpool based initially at 24 Oxford street and 32 London road: for a while it was "Lloyd, Jones & Co" and then from around 1872 it was just "Lloyd & Co". Wondering where I could find any extra information such as, when did it start and when did it wind up, which other people were involved in it, who joined or dropped out over the years...

If it was an actual limited company there's bound to be some information recorded, but if just a partnership I'm guessing it may be more difficult to find?

Thanks,
Steve
Title: Re: Information on "Lloyd and Co" drapers in Liverpool 1870s
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 30 September 24 19:23 BST (UK)
A very warm welcome to Rootschat

Doesn't answer your specific query but had you spotted -
Liverpool Albion, 4 Apr 1874
Title: Re: Information on "Lloyd and Co" drapers in Liverpool 1870s
Post by: AlanBoyd on Monday 30 September 24 19:36 BST (UK)
A fire at their premises in Mill-street:

12 September 1868: Liverpool Weekly Courier
Title: Re: Information on "Lloyd and Co" drapers in Liverpool 1870s
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 30 September 24 20:08 BST (UK)
There's a wealth of adverts in the newspapers re 24 Oxford St and 32 London Road.
By the early 1880s 32 London Road starts coming up as "The Criterion, 32 London Road" and spotted this in the Liverpool Mercury, 1 May 1884 -
Title: Re: Information on "Lloyd and Co" drapers in Liverpool 1870s
Post by: stevelord65 on Wednesday 02 October 24 06:23 BST (UK)
Thanks hanes teulu for the article about John's wife Henrietta, which also confirms her father's name and profession  :) Thanks also for the other replies: very interesting.

Also found out (see my other post "Can't find a marriage https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=886109.0) that before getting married in 1868, John and Henrietta had, for at least 6 or 7 years, pretended on official records to be married to each other whilst John was (presumably) still married to his first wife. Never thought my Gr Gr Grandfather would turn out to be so fascinating!
Title: Re: Information on "Lloyd and Co" drapers in Liverpool 1870s
Post by: theirchild on Wednesday 02 October 24 12:01 BST (UK)
Hi stevelord65,

Welcome to Rootschat...

Have you seen this? Is the John Lloyd, draper, mentioned here the right one? (It's not about the drapery business but may nevertheless be of interest.)

https://records.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/calmview/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=D-EE%2FMISC%2F76 (https://records.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/calmview/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=D-EE%2FMISC%2F76)

Best of luck with your research,

theirchild

EDIT: I've just learnt, on stevelord65's other thread ("Can't find a marriage"), that John Lloyd was born about 1830; so my contribution (reply #11) to that thread was invalid :-[ and I'll make another post there to apologise. In the meantime, I've deleted the reference to it that I made in this post; and, in view of John Lloyd's c. 1830 birth, I've also deleted from this post a paragraph above, regarding an 1840 bankruptcy - I doubt there are many 9-10 year old children who go bankrupt!  :-[ ;D
Title: Re: Information on "Lloyd and Co" drapers in Liverpool 1870s
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 02 October 24 12:22 BST (UK)
Insolvency proceedings 1879-80:

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/24793/page/7506

"John Lloyd, of No. 32, London-road, Liverpool, in the county of Lancaster, trading under the style or firm of Lloyd and Company, Artificial Flower Manufacturer, Dealer in Trimmings and Millinery Goods"

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/24903/page/5925
Title: Re: Information on "Lloyd and Co" drapers in Liverpool 1870s
Post by: stevelord65 on Thursday 03 October 24 09:10 BST (UK)
So many interesting things uncovered in this thread - thanks so much everyone for all your posts. Curious about what sites some of these came from and what search terms you used to find them?