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Title: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: dogmanny on Friday 20 September 24 17:37 BST (UK)
Hello,

Im looking for some advice/help if possible.

I am looking for a family member who was a Barnardos child "boarded out" in Long Crendon between the years of 1926 -1936. I am unable to access the census's from these dates due to them not being a 100 years yet.

Im trying to find a way to establish the family who fostered him. Would there be anyway that anone can think of to find this out?

I already pocess his kept information from Barnardos and it does not state the family name.

The only names I have to go on are Mr Lucette and a W.E Hobday. Which were both mentioned in notes as 'friend'. And two addresses, one Long Crendon.
The other two are for W.E Hobday in 1939 living at The Lawn, Roundham Rd, Paignton and Ethorpe Hotel, Gerrards Cross.

Any help or advice would be very much appreciated.

Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Friday 20 September 24 18:22 BST (UK)
In terms of W. E. Hobday, a man called Oswald Sergeant Smith of The Lawn, Roundham Road, Paignton, Devonshire died on 22nd September 1944 and probate was granted to Wilfred Ernest Hobday, retired civil servant.

So Wilfred Ernest Hobday is listed as a friend of the family who fostered your family member?

Also, there are unfortunately no surviving censuses between 1926 and 1936. There is only the 1921 census and the 1939 register, both of which have been released.

Queenie  :)

EDIT: A newspaper article describes Hobday as the son-in-law of Oswald Smith, so that explains their connection.
Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Friday 20 September 24 18:30 BST (UK)
What was the Long Crendon address that was mentioned in the notes?

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: Jebber on Friday 20 September 24 19:43 BST (UK)
You won’t ever see the 1931 Census  for England and Wales, it was destroyed in a fire in 1942. There was no census in 1941 because of the war. For the next available Census you will have to wait until 2052. Rather a long way off for many of us.😢
Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: dogmanny on Friday 20 September 24 21:51 BST (UK)
Thanks Queenie!

Sorry I dont think I have explained myself very clearly. I should of read back my inital post.

Wilfred Ernest Hobday (which i now know, thank you) is mentioned as a friend of my grandfather in his Barnardos notes. He wrote to him once he left Barnardos at the request of a Mr Lucette.

My grandfather was "borded out" in Long Crendon for 10 years, returned to Banardos for vocational training and left a few years later to work.  But I have no address for Long Crendon.

Its hard to tell from Barnardos notes if Mr Lucette was someone who worked there, or if Mr Hobday was a friend from Barnardos or someone he knew from when he was in Long Crendon.

Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 20 September 24 22:01 BST (UK)
Think I've cracked Mr Lucette

In 1939 Edward Henry Lucette is employed at a Dr Barnardos home in Essex


Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: dogmanny on Friday 20 September 24 22:20 BST (UK)
I suspected Lucette might be. That would make sense.

Hobday's DOB is 1889 and my grandfather DOB is 1923. Cant quite understand the connection. Hobday appears to have been a soilder and so not sure how they would of crossed paths to make a friendship.

The notes read "Mr Lucette has asked for a friend to write to lad" and then names Hobday and his address. Perhaps Hobday is Lucettes friend!?
Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 20 September 24 22:30 BST (UK)
It's possible Edward Lucette (b c1896)  & Wilfred Hobday (b c 1889) knew each other and were friends.

Edward's profession on his marriage in 1925 was Ceylon civil service
Wilfred was a civil servant and appears to have married in India

Their paths may have crossed there?
Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: dogmanny on Friday 20 September 24 22:42 BST (UK)
I suspect you’re right. I think that Lucette and Hobday and more likely the friendship. Perhaps writing to my grandfather to offer some advice or friendship since he had just left the care of Barnardos.

I think I was barking up the wrong tree there. Had hoped it might lead me to understand more about his time in Long Crendon.
Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: dogmanny on Saturday 21 September 24 10:17 BST (UK)
I assume my Grandfather would have attended school whilst at Long Crendon. Is there a record of school registers ? I’ve browsed ansestory.com but can’t see such a thing.
Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: tazzie on Saturday 21 September 24 10:54 BST (UK)
Long Crendon  has a village history website and email address. Might be worth asking if any information exists in the village. It's managed by the parish council.
  clerk ( insert usual ) longcrendon-pc.gov.uk

 You never know.

  Tazzie
Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: dogmanny on Saturday 21 September 24 10:56 BST (UK)
Thanks Tazzie,

That is a good suggestion! I'll give it a try.
Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: Sc00p on Sunday 22 September 24 09:16 BST (UK)
William and Eliza Jane Tugwood, High St, Long Crendon have 4 named Barnados boarders in 1921 including one born Essex.  Likely William death in 1931 and Eliza Jane in 1936.
Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: dogmanny on Sunday 22 September 24 09:33 BST (UK)
Thanks Sc00p,

Where did you come across that info? From the 1921 census? My grandfather was born in Ireland and boarded from 1926- 1936. But the death of Eliza could be a coincidence or explain why her returned to a home that year!
Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: Sc00p on Sunday 22 September 24 13:34 BST (UK)
Thanks Sc00p,

Where did you come across that info? From the 1921 census? My grandfather was born in Ireland and boarded from 1926- 1936. But the death of Eliza could be a coincidence or explain why her returned to a home that year!

Yes, the 1921 Census. 

I also turned up a much later newspaper article that stated Author Leslie Thomas (Virgin Soldiers) had a younger brother called Roy that was Boarded out from Barnados to Long Crendon when they were orphaned during WW2. Might be worth investigating....

Edit.  The Autobiography of Thomas's early life https://archive.org/details/thistimenextweek0000thom_z9z6/mode/1up (https://archive.org/details/thistimenextweek0000thom_z9z6/mode/1up) might give some clues as to who boarded Roy as the Newpaper article also mentions Leslie absconded from barnados to visit his brother.
Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: dogmanny on Sunday 22 September 24 16:53 BST (UK)
Thank you!

Im maybe being really stupid but from what website are you finding the 1921 census for Long Crendon?

Im trying both ancestory.com and also findmypast and neither are returning Tugwood in 1921.
Title: Re: Long Crendon - Buckinghamshire (Lucette or Hobday)
Post by: Sc00p on Sunday 22 September 24 17:05 BST (UK)
FindMyPast transcribed as Ingwood https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBC/1921/RG15/07436/0375/01 (https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBC/1921/RG15/07436/0375/01)