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Hi
I'm searching for information regarding my late mother's Cousin Sheila Colman born around the 1930s newcastle upon tyne her parents were Bessie nee fraser and Norman Colman both were living in Newcastle upon tyne 1940s onwards to the 1980s Sheila was not living with them in 1947 but was in 1951 she was know as Sheila on the Electoral roll then in 1954 know as Robinson I think she got married in 1953 to James H Robinson and they had a son Brian J Robinson then I'm sure if she married again in 1968 it's very strange I cannot find her Birth records I can find her 2 siblings Elizabeth Patricia colman 1928 and William JN Colman I'm beginning to wonder if she was there Biological daughter my mother was very close to her I'm sure she met up with her around the 1980s but never knew what happened to her as I can't find her death I've searched to help my elderly relative to find out about Sheila and her son Brian but can't find anything if anyone can help with some information I would be very grateful
Thankyou kindly.
Catherine K
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in 1974 , Brian J Robinson is living with Sheila M Minnikin , COULD THIS BE THEM,
11 Beaufront Gardens,
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I cannot find the family in 1939!
Norman Colman m Bessie Fraser Q3 1926 Newcastle upon Tyne
Bessie Colman d Q4 1981 Newcastle
dob 18 July 1904
Norman Colman d Dec 1986 Northumberland Central
dob 7 Sep 1901
Norman and Bessie at Beaufront Gardens Newcastle upon Tyne, Electoral Register 1966
A search for Colman births with mmn Fraser only finds Patricia and William JN as detailed in the OP.
Sheila Colman m James H Robinson Q2 1952 Newcastle upon Tyne
I haven't found anything about this wedding at BNA.
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Sheila Mary Minnikin birth date 14th January 1930 died Newcastle June 1981
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More on the 1966 Electoral Register that I mentioned above. I didn't look closely enough.
At number 9 Beaufront Gardens are Norman and Bessie Colman plus Sheila M Robinson.
At number 3 is a Minnikin family:
Edward Minnikin (snr.)
Priscilla N Minnikin
Irene Coulson [NOT Minnikin]
Edward Minnikin (jnr)
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sadly Sheila Minnikin died at Beaufront Gardens, she had taken an overdose , can you access the newspapers, I hate giving sad news ,in a post, Newcastle Journal, 20th May 1981
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Free BMD ,Edward Minnikin, spouse Sheila Robinson, December 1969 Newcastle
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An extended version of radcliffe's reply #1, 1974 register
no 3 Beaufront Gardens, Edward and Priscilla N Minnikin
no 9 Beaufront Gardens, Norman and Bessie Colman, Brian J Robinson, Sheila M Minnikin
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I'm not sure why this post is in completed look ups, perhaps a moderator could move it,
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perhaps Edward Minnikin , son of Edward Minnikin, he was married to Olive M Douglas, his name is written as Mennekin June 1947 Newcastle a daughter born Newcastle 1955, Olive M Minikin died Newcastle Olive M Minnikin aged 38 December 1962 Newcastle Upon Tyne, Olive and Edward Minnikins daughter married in Newcastle and is with her husband in 1974 Swinburn Terrace Bells Close
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Hi everyone thank you so much for all the information regarding Sheila Coleman yes she did live at 9 Beaufront Gardens I never knew she had a tragic death taking a overdose I haven't been able to access this information about Sheila's death I would be very grateful grateful if you could send me this information thanking you kindly
Catherine K
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Hi
I meant to ask did Sheila Colman get married again with her surname being minnikin when she died also did anyone find Sheila birth records as Bessie and Norman were her biological parents it's very tragic her death as her sister Elizabeth died a tragic death in a house fire her mother Bessie was my Grandmother sister my Great auntie Bessie
Thankyou all so much
Catherine K
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I can not send it, as I don't have full access sorry, perhaps pop into Newcastle library ,to check if they have the article, or pay to view it , British newspaper archives, in 1973 Sheila's son is living with Norman and Bessie ,Sheila isn't registered at this address, but she is in 1974,
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Sheila Robinson married Edward Minnikin December 1969 Newcastle
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I am trying to work back, in 1946 Norman and Bessie Colman live at 113 Park Road,
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With a free FindMyPast account you can buy the newspaper page, usually 50p each. It's very easy and gives access as soon as you have paid. Other records are available pay per view.
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/help/articles/4405440232977-what-are-findmypast-micropayments-
Newcastle Journal
20th May 1981 search for Minnikin.
It comes up twice but they are the same report.
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Hi
Everyone thank you I will go into the library to access the death of Sheila also Bessie and Norman would have been living with her Mother my Great Grandmother Mary fraser she also lived in park road Sheila did get married again thank you for all the information I really appreciate this
Catherine K
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Based on the composition of the Fraser family in 1921 (parents William and Mary, six children including Bessie), I think that I have found Mary Fraser and two sons at 102 Park Road in 1939. There are no Colmans in this household.
(If anyone follows this up, the son John Fraser in the 1921 census is registered as born John L Fraser, Q2 1920 mmn Owens, Newcastle, and appears as Leslie in 1939. The other 1939 son, Norman is registered Q3 1921 mmn Owens)
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In 1930 Bessie Colman and Norman are living 26 Mons Lines Catterick Camp, in 1929 Bessie is registered living with her mother
Also registered at the camp 1931 1932 1933 and 1934
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I cannot see a death for Sheila's son so must be careful here, but there are two birth registrations for someone of his name (including initial) born Newcastle Q1 1953. One has mmn Colman and the other has Henderson. Could this be the same birth registered twice?
Following on from that, for what it's worth, there are two Sheila M Henderson births registered in Newcastle, 1931 and 1934.
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Sheila Mary Minnikin's death registration gives her birth year as 1930. There is an Army birth registration, Sheila Colman, 1930, Alexandria. No middle initial, no mother’s maiden name.
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Alan I to was looking at Sheila being born away from the north East, if her Dad was in the Army, and parents registered in Catterick from 1930, her parents may have been overseas prior to this,
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in, 1935, 1936, 1937, 1938 Bessie and Norman Colman are living in Blacktown Barracks Farnham , flat /house 19C
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Alan I to was looking at Sheila being born away from the north East, if her Dad was in the Army, and parents registered in Catterick from 1930, her parents may have been overseas prior to this,
Radcliff, it was your Catterick post that alerted me to the possible significance of the birth in Alexandria.
Presumably members of the armed forces were not included in the 1939 register, but what about their families living in barracks – were they also excluded?
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Sheila Mary Minnikin was cremated West Road, 13th March 1981,
No of entry in register of cremations 136834
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Alan I to was looking at Sheila being born away from the north East, if her Dad was in the Army, and parents registered in Catterick from 1930, her parents may have been overseas prior to this,
I think the children may have perhaps been evacuated at this point ,
Radcliff, it was your Catterick post that alerted me to the possible significance of the birth in Alexandria.
Presumably members of the armed forces were not included in the 1939 register, but what about their families living in barracks – were they also excluded?
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if this is her husband,
Edward Minnikin, cremated West Road, 5th March 1998,
No of entry in register of cremations 196705,
England and Wales death registration
Edward Minnikin , birth date 13th October 1923, death recorded Feb 1998, Newcastle Upon Tyne,
govuk,probate records, Edward Minnikin date of death 26th March 1998, probate granted Newcastle ,30th March 1999,
London Gazette notice, published 24th June 1998,
Edward Minnikin,
death date 26th Feb 1998
address, 26 Stoneylea Road, West Denton,
Solictor ,Phillip Jackson &Co 679 West Road,
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Hi Thankyou all for all your information it has been a great help as Sheila Colman has been a mystery I know 2 of Bessie and Norman children were born in Newcastle but I couldn't understand why I couldn't find Sheila Colman my mother and her were best cousins but lost contact I do remember my Mother's siblings all been evacuated to Catterick and Bessie and Norman could have been overseas also they lived not far from the west road crematorium so they could also be buried there maybe if I could find Sheila son I might be able to find more information but I'm so very grateful for all your help I could never have found out so much information
Thanking you kindly
Catherine K
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Hi sorry I think I've replied to the wrong post as I wanted to thank everyone for all the information regarding Sheila Colman I'm so very grateful also I was wondering who was Sheila Henderson is she by chance Sheila mary Colman my Mam was born 1937 and I'm sure there was only a few years between them I just find it strange that there's no maiden name in 1930 registration
Thankyou all so much
CATHERINE K
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Edward Minnikin may have been married previously to Olive M Douglas( 4th September 1923) , Newcastle
Olive M Minnikin died in 1962, and they may have had a daughter together in 1955, I won't print her name as its highly likely she is still alive, in 1956 they are living with her mother perhaps, in Marsden Street,
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Hi sorry I think I've replied to the wrong post as I wanted to thank everyone for all the information regarding Sheila Colman I'm so very grateful also I was wondering who was Sheila Henderson is she by chance Sheila mary Colman my Mam was born 1937 and I'm sure there was only a few years between them I just find it strange that there's no maiden name in 1930 registration
Thankyou all so much
CATHERINE K
My suggestion of Sheila Henderson as a possibiity was very much a long shot based on the coincidence of two births registered close together with the name of Sheila’s son. There would need to be some more solid evidence before taking it too seriously.
Also the age at death of Sheila Mary Minnikin doesn’t fit with the births of the two Sheila M Hendersons that I saw.
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I have just noticed that there is possibly another child Sydney Colman mother Fraser ,birth registered Richmond September 1933, he is living with Sheila and his parents in 1956,
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National archives, Discovery ,
Web UK,World War 2, medals issued 1946- 2002,to merchant seamen
William JN Colman birth date 7th Feb 1927,
for service between 1939 to 1945,
so if he's your relative he was very young when he went to sea,
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William JN Colman possibly married Roberta Lewis September 1956 Newcastle,
they possibly lived Malvern Terrace in 1958,
he may have remarried in Newcastle in 1980,
and a William Colman died Lemington 22Feb 2011 aged 84 years, cremated West Road,
you would have to verify this , as I can't be sure its the correct person, There is a Roberta A Colman marriage Northumberland S Dec 1969,
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Hi
I am also wondering if Sheila mary Colman name was Sheila Henderson as its strange that there was also Sydney Colman and his other siblings William and Elizabeth were all registered as there birth mother fraser also William colman did live in Malvern street it was the next street to my mother as my mam and Sheila used to visit William so that's definitely William and his wife Reberta yes he was very young also I did forgot about Sydney Colman I think his dad had had a brother Sydney
Thanking you all so much
Catherine K
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Since I started this Sheila M Henderson story (see reply #19) I thought that I should see it through. I've traced the two Sheila M Hendersons born in Newcastle around the relevant period and have ruled them both out as being Sheila M Colman.
The SMH born Newcastle 1931 is in the 1939 register (unredacted!) with her parents (Henry Russell M Henderson and Andrina (Reekie)) and she married (Stone) in 1955.
The SMH born 1934 is with her parents (John Hunter Henderson and Edith (Kay)) in the 1956 Newcastle electoral register.
Thus there is noting to support the theory that the namesake of Sheila M Colman's son born in Q1 1953 with mmn Henderson was the son of a Sheila M Colman who had actually been born as Sheila M Henderson.
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Hi
Thankyou so much for all the information regarding Sheila Mary Colman so at least I know that you have ruled out Sheila Henderson as it was confusing and all the hard work yourself and everyone has searched for me I really appreciate this can I ask do you think Sheila mary Colman did have a son called Brian Robinson I do know speaking to a elderly relative that Sheila was very troubled but she was a lovely woman and my mams favourite cousin
Thanking you kindly
Catherine K
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From the news report on the inquest following the suicide of Mrs Sheila Minnikin of Beaufront Gardens: "Her son, Mr Brian Robinson of...told the inquest that..."
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yes I do think she had a son ,named Brian
He is with his Colman Grandparents in 1973
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perhaps you can check this death out,
Brian John Robinson
birth date 2nd Jan 1953
died Gateshead 5th September 2008,
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Hi
Yes thanks I will check Brian John Robinson death so sad he wasn't very old I really appreciate this information
Catherine K