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Hey everyone, wondered if someone would be able to advise me on burial records for magheralin RC parish records. In particular the years of 1867, 1885, 1891, 1904, 1928. Are these available. Im trying to find where my 2, 3, and 4 great grandparents are buried. I have come across one for the year 1866, top of the parish book states funerals, Then he is listed as 23rd January, John Smyth Drumnabreeze then the word Kilwarlin. Going of his Death cert Drumnabreeze is his address, But unsure what kilwarlin stands for. Would this be the actual graveyard??
Ill attach a pic for handiness.
Hopefully someone can help me. Thanks so much
Laura
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Here's what's available and where it can be found-
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0438&parish=Magheralinn
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Thanks so much Aghadowey.
Do you think the picture that i posted, could possibly be where John Smyth is buried? Kilwarlin I have been told is the name of St Colman's on the Bottier road, moira, where I am led to believe is the only burial ground for RC Magherlain parish. Hopefully this information is correct.
Thanks Laura
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You can view the actual page from the register here-
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633242?locale=en#page/54/mode/1up
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Yes that is a picture of what i attached. Im unsure though if hes burial ground is in Kilwarlin. From what i can find, drumnabreeze aint kilwarlin. So im assuming kilwarlin is his burial ground, which would make that the graveyard at St Colmans. Unless Im reading this register completely wrong, as it doesnt have alot of information on it
Thanks
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The Lurgan Ancestry website has a few headstone photos and inscriptions for Kilwarlin Cemetery:
http://www.lurganancestry.com/kilwarlininscrptions.htm
This inscription is included:
Erected in loving memory of Arthur and Margaret Smyth of North Street, Lurgan. And their daughter Margaret who died 10th February 1960.
Photo here:
http://www.lurganancestry.com/gravestonesgallery/php/index.php?pageNo=2&recordPerPage=24&category_id=7&view_type=1
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Thanks Glensman, its actually Arthurs dad John and mother Jane im after. But ill take this aswell! Thanks so much!
If the burial record was clearer id be able to ask Magheralin if they have it, but dont want to go there incase Kilwarlin on the record doesnt meant buried there.
Laura
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Kilwarlin I have been told is the name of St Colman's on the Bottier road, moira, where I am led to believe is the only burial ground for RC Magherlain parish. Hopefully this information is correct.
Thanks Laura
Evidently not. The burial entries on the page you post show entries for other locations, such as Magherlain.
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On the following link you can see two Catholic cemeteries listed for Kilwarlin.
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/search?cemetery-name=kilwarlin&cemetery-loc=&only-with-cemeteries=cemOnly&locationId=&page=1#cem-2560517 (https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/search?cemetery-name=kilwarlin&cemetery-loc=&only-with-cemeteries=cemOnly&locationId=&page=1#cem-2560517)
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Kilwarlin I have been told is the name of St Colman's on the Bottier road, moira, where I am led to believe is the only burial ground for RC Magherlain parish. Hopefully this information is correct.
Thanks Laura
Evidently not. The burial entries on the page you post show entries for other locations, such as Magherlain.
Magheralinn - RC Parish
Diocese of Dromore | County of Armagh
Variant forms of parish name:
Kilwarlin
Magheralin
Moira
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0438
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Magheralinn - RC Parish
Diocese of Dromore | County of Armagh
Variant forms of parish name:
Kilwarlin
Magheralin
Moira
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0438
Kiltaglassan - not sure what you are implying with this post.
- Are you pointing to spelling variations?
- Or disputing that there is more than one graveyard?
These "variant names" are not synonyms. The are often - and in this case are - the names of the different civil parishes comprised within the Catholic parish. Different graveyards are clearly being referenced in the parish funeral register.
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The burial entries on the page you post show entries for other locations, such as Magherlain.
Think I would take it that John Smyth is buried Kilwarlin as you (unilove18) said it is entitled Register of Funerals, so unclear. The R.C parish of Magheralin encompassed several civil parishes St. Colman’s Kilwarlin is Moira (Lurganville Townland), but also apparent are Aghagallon, Clare and Lurgan which are not in the R.C parish. Drumnabreeze is certainly much closer to Magheralin than Moira https://www.townlands.ie/down/iveagh-lower-upper-half/magheralin/ballyleany/drumnabreeze/
The register will be all there is for the parish, though the priests may be able to confirm the interpretation.
Some R.C. Burials may well have continued in the ancient parish graveyard too aka Magheralin Old Church of Ireland graveyard with post-reformation church ruins on the site of the monastery founded by St. Colman.
http://lisburn.com/books/dromore-diocese/parish-magheralin.html
https://www.magheralinparish.com/
Magheralin old church https://apps.communities-ni.gov.uk/NISMR-public/Details.aspx?MonID=6637
http://lisburn.com/churches/Lisburn-churches/st-colmans-kilwarlin.html
http://www.lurganancestry.com/kilwarlincem.htm
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Greetings,
I am looking for the final resting place for Bernard Catney d.1914 and his wife Helena "Lena" Lynch Catney d.1923.
They spent their married lives in Maghaberry, Maheramesk, County Antrim.
I have been unable to find their graves. Bernard was born in Magheralin and I thought it might be near Maghaberry.
Thank you kindly for any suggestions you may offer,
Anne
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looks like Bernard left a will, can not open record on my Computer?
http://www.findypast.co.uk
death of Bernard on church records says he was a farmer and publican
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie
the only record close to Helena deaths was for a Ellen Carney died in Swinford, Mayo age 84
lived at 20 Maghaberry Antrim census 1911
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Welcome to RootsChat, Anne :)
looks like Bernard left a will, can not open record on my Computer?
http://www.findypast.co.uk
PRONI Will Calendars https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
Administration of the Estate of Bernard Catney late of Megaberry County Antrim Publican who died 17 January 1914 granted at Belfast to Helena Bridget Catney the Widow
Date of Grant : 11 February 1914
Effects : £218
Also NAI:
Deceased Surname: Catney
Deceased Forename: Bernard
Primary Beneficiary/Executor: Helena Bridget Catney
Date of Death: 17 Jan 1914
County of Death: Antrim
https://willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639244852
https://willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014918/005014918_00440.pdf
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Thank you for your speedy response.
I have a copy of the will as well as both of their death registers.
I have their birth records, census records, marriage record, birth of their only child, etc...
I seem to have the major parts of their lives documented, I am in need of their final resting place.
This one detail eludes me.
I would love to be able to visit their graves.
Thank you again.
My apologies for not being more thorough when I requested information.
I'm a newby.
Anne
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looks like Bernard left a will, can not open record on my Computer?
Incorrect- see below.
Administration of the Estate of Bernard Catney late of Megaberry County Antrim Publican who died 17 January 1914 granted at Belfast to Helena Bridget Catney the Widow
If there was a Will it would have said probate was granted or administration (with a Will) meaning the Will wasn't considered valid but the estate was administered.
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Irish News and Belfast Morning News, 19 January 1914: CATTNEY - January 17th, at his residence, Megaberry. Bernard Cattney. - R.I.P. His remains will be removed today (Monday) at one o'clock, to family burying-ground, Kilwarlin. LENA CATTNEY.
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gaffy,
Thank you kindly for the information about Bernard's burial at a "family burial ground, Kilwarlin".
Could you tell me where you found this information? I have a number of articles from various newspapers that I found on Find My Past. But this was not one of them.
Anne
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Could you tell me where you found this information? I have a number of articles from various newspapers that I found on Find My Past. But this was not one of them.
The Irish News and Belfast Morning News is on Findmypast and BNA, coverage was added 5 Aug 2025.
Is spelt CaTTney in the paper https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-viewer?issue=BL%2F0001930%2F19140119&page=1&article=003&stringtohighlight=cattney
There are a number of posts about sale of the licensed premises & farm by Bernard's widow Helen Bridget, transfer of the licence, and court case with John Catney sueing his sister-in-law Helen the Executrix. May or may not be the ones you have seen.
Just search Catney + place of publication Belfast & Lisburn. http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tyn/
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Thank you all for your responses and suggestions. Where does one look for burial information if their family members died more recently than what is usually listed on the NLI site. 1914 and 1923.
Would this fall under the PRONI umbrella?
Thanks,
Anne
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I forgot to mention that I have reached out to the various churches via email and snail mail.
Anne