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Title: RC Parish of Magheralin Burial records
Post by: unilove18 on Sunday 15 September 24 14:04 BST (UK)
Hey everyone, wondered if someone would be able to advise me on burial records for magheralin RC parish records. In particular the years of 1867, 1885, 1891, 1904, 1928. Are these available. Im trying to find where my 2, 3, and 4 great grandparents are buried. I have come across one for the year 1866, top of the parish book states funerals, Then he is listed as 23rd January, John Smyth Drumnabreeze then the word Kilwarlin. Going of his Death cert Drumnabreeze is his address, But unsure what kilwarlin stands for. Would this be the actual graveyard??
Ill attach a pic for handiness.
Hopefully someone can help me. Thanks so much
Laura
Title: Re: RC Parish of Magheralin Burial records
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 15 September 24 14:11 BST (UK)
Here's what's available and where it can be found-
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0438&parish=Magheralinn
Title: Re: RC Parish of Magheralin Burial records
Post by: unilove18 on Sunday 15 September 24 14:22 BST (UK)
Thanks so much Aghadowey.
Do you think the picture that i posted, could possibly be where John Smyth is buried? Kilwarlin I have been told is the name of St Colman's on the Bottier road, moira, where I am led to believe is the only burial ground for RC Magherlain parish. Hopefully this information is correct.
Thanks Laura
Title: Re: RC Parish of Magheralin Burial records
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 15 September 24 14:46 BST (UK)
You can view the actual page from the register here-
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633242?locale=en#page/54/mode/1up
Title: Re: RC Parish of Magheralin Burial records
Post by: unilove18 on Sunday 15 September 24 14:50 BST (UK)
Yes that is a picture of what i attached. Im unsure though if hes burial ground is in Kilwarlin. From what i can find, drumnabreeze aint kilwarlin. So im assuming kilwarlin is his burial ground, which would make that the graveyard at St Colmans. Unless Im reading this register completely wrong, as it doesnt have alot of information on it

Thanks
Title: Re: RC Parish of Magheralin Burial records
Post by: glensman on Sunday 15 September 24 18:16 BST (UK)
The Lurgan Ancestry website has a few headstone photos and inscriptions for Kilwarlin Cemetery:
http://www.lurganancestry.com/kilwarlininscrptions.htm

This inscription is included:
Erected in loving memory of Arthur and Margaret Smyth of North Street, Lurgan. And their daughter Margaret who died 10th February 1960.
Photo here:
http://www.lurganancestry.com/gravestonesgallery/php/index.php?pageNo=2&recordPerPage=24&category_id=7&view_type=1
Title: Re: RC Parish of Magheralin Burial records
Post by: unilove18 on Sunday 15 September 24 18:30 BST (UK)
Thanks Glensman, its actually Arthurs dad John and mother Jane im after. But ill take this aswell! Thanks so much!

If the burial record was clearer id be able to ask Magheralin if they have it, but dont want to go there incase Kilwarlin on the record doesnt meant buried there.

Laura
Title: Re: RC Parish of Magheralin Burial records
Post by: Wexflyer on Sunday 15 September 24 23:01 BST (UK)
Kilwarlin I have been told is the name of St Colman's on the Bottier road, moira, where I am led to believe is the only burial ground for RC Magherlain parish. Hopefully this information is correct.
Thanks Laura

Evidently not. The burial entries on the page you post show entries for other locations, such as Magherlain.
Title: Re: RC Parish of Magheralin Burial records
Post by: Wexflyer on Sunday 15 September 24 23:15 BST (UK)
On the following link you can see two Catholic cemeteries listed for Kilwarlin.
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/search?cemetery-name=kilwarlin&cemetery-loc=&only-with-cemeteries=cemOnly&locationId=&page=1#cem-2560517 (https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/search?cemetery-name=kilwarlin&cemetery-loc=&only-with-cemeteries=cemOnly&locationId=&page=1#cem-2560517)
Title: Re: RC Parish of Magheralin Burial records
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 16 September 24 07:33 BST (UK)

Kilwarlin I have been told is the name of St Colman's on the Bottier road, moira, where I am led to believe is the only burial ground for RC Magherlain parish. Hopefully this information is correct.
Thanks Laura

Evidently not. The burial entries on the page you post show entries for other locations, such as Magherlain.

Magheralinn - RC Parish
Diocese of Dromore | County of Armagh
Variant forms of parish name:
Kilwarlin
Magheralin
Moira

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0438


Title: Re: RC Parish of Magheralin Burial records
Post by: Wexflyer on Monday 16 September 24 15:28 BST (UK)


Magheralinn - RC Parish
Diocese of Dromore | County of Armagh
Variant forms of parish name:
Kilwarlin
Magheralin
Moira

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0438

Kiltaglassan - not sure what you are implying with this post.
- Are you pointing to spelling variations?
- Or disputing that there is more than one graveyard?

These "variant names" are not synonyms. The are often - and in this case are - the names of the different civil parishes comprised within the Catholic parish. Different graveyards are clearly being referenced in the parish funeral register.
Title: Re: RC Parish of Magheralin Burial records
Post by: Jon_ni on Tuesday 17 September 24 11:00 BST (UK)
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The burial entries on the page you post show entries for other locations, such as Magherlain.

Think I would take it that John Smyth is buried Kilwarlin as you (unilove18) said it is entitled Register of Funerals, so unclear. The R.C parish of Magheralin encompassed several civil parishes St. Colman’s Kilwarlin is Moira (Lurganville Townland), but also apparent are Aghagallon, Clare and Lurgan which are not in the R.C parish. Drumnabreeze is certainly much closer to Magheralin than Moira https://www.townlands.ie/down/iveagh-lower-upper-half/magheralin/ballyleany/drumnabreeze/
The register will be all there is for the parish, though the priests may be able to confirm the interpretation.

Some R.C. Burials may well have continued in the ancient parish graveyard too aka Magheralin Old Church of Ireland graveyard with post-reformation church ruins on the site of the monastery founded by St. Colman.

http://lisburn.com/books/dromore-diocese/parish-magheralin.html
https://www.magheralinparish.com/
Magheralin old church https://apps.communities-ni.gov.uk/NISMR-public/Details.aspx?MonID=6637
http://lisburn.com/churches/Lisburn-churches/st-colmans-kilwarlin.html
http://www.lurganancestry.com/kilwarlincem.htm