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Title: Gladys Davies
Post by: anneelaine on Sunday 15 September 24 00:27 BST (UK)
I am looking to find a Gladys Davis who lived in Penmaenmawr,  birth 1927 I think Conwy, but not sure death 2018/19 Conwy mother Davies,  Gladys married a Rogerson in 1946 /47  said she remarried him again on his birth Docket was down as Davies .cannot find a second marriage to William I Davies / Rogerson he was   born 1915 Bangor
 looking for a second marriage , Dates
also, Gladys' father lived in Penmaenmawr,,  Davies St or David St,
 Penmaenmawr,,
I think it was number 15 but not too sure .
 Looking to find his name marriage ext.  her mother on the docket was just Davies
  Thanks
AE
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 15 September 24 01:48 BST (UK)
You post is not easy to understand.   What do you mean by “the docket”?

The marriage was in 1946 & is on freebmd - did you check?

“And she married him again”. Does this mean they divorced?  If no divorce - why did they remarry?

What do you mean by William I Davies/ William I Rogerson - why the 2 surnames?

Buying a copy of the 1946 marriage cert will give her fathers name.  Have you looked her up on the 1939 register as she would only be about 12 at that time.

If she died in 2018/19 was she Rogerson or Davies when she died?   Have you looked up her death on GRO online to establish her birthyear?  Nothing found under Rogerson in Wales

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: anneelaine on Sunday 15 September 24 01:59 BST (UK)
Hello, sorry Birth certificate i mean  I live in Australia for a time
no divorce ,she told everyone that she wanted to go back to the name Davies  & William on his BC was William I Davies .So was getting remarried.
 her birthday was 5 Nov 1927.
I had a look on the 1931 censes but cannot find her.
I forgot about that will take a look.
I think my laptop playing up its hard to find anything cannot find her death
 Gladys Davies she have just changed her name then.
Thanks
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 15 September 24 02:06 BST (UK)
What was Williams middle name & what was his mothers maiden name?  When did he die & what was his surname on his death cert - Davies or Rogerson?
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 15 September 24 02:09 BST (UK)
There is no death in Conway for a Gladys Davies or Rogerson 2016-2020

EDIT

THERE IS A GLADYS DAVIES DEATH IN 2015 CONWY - B 1927 - SEE GRO ONLINE

Buying a copy of her death cert will give her full birthdate
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: anneelaine on Sunday 15 September 24 02:19 BST (UK)
Name   William Iorwerth Davies mother Jane Anne Davies ,( Gladys Davies Husband )
Death Age   91
Birth Date   14 Jul 1915
Registration Date   Mar 2006
Registration district   Bangor
Inferred County   Caernarvonshire
Register Number   103A
District and Subdistrict   841/1A
Entry Number   024
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 15 September 24 02:19 BST (UK)
Where there any children born to the marriage?  Where their births registered as Davies or Rogerson?  Please don’t give their details here if they are still alive. Rootschat has a no living persons policy
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: anneelaine on Sunday 15 September 24 02:20 BST (UK)
Hi ,No children
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: anneelaine on Sunday 15 September 24 02:26 BST (UK)
Hello.
 Detail Source
Name   William I Rogerson
Registration Date   Jul 1946
[Aug 1946]
[Sep 1946]
Registration Quarter   Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district   Conway
Inferred County   Caernarvonshire
Spouse   
Gladys Davies
Volume Number   8a
Page number   312
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 15 September 24 02:29 BST (UK)
No birth for a William Iowerth Davies/Davis/Rogerson 1914-1916

That’s the marriage I referred to earlier - the marriage cert will give details of both fathers names
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: anneelaine on Sunday 15 September 24 02:36 BST (UK)
 Jane Anne  Davies married the father of William I  Davies, in 1917
So then he took on his father name of Rogerson ,
then later  changed it back to Davies.
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 15 September 24 02:38 BST (UK)
See above - no birth reg 1914-1916 under Davies or Rogerson

If this couple had no children - what is your connection? 
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: DCB on Sunday 15 September 24 10:13 BST (UK)
The Rogerson family is at Pensarn Farm, Llandudno, Llangwstennin, Caernarvonshire, including Iorwerth born 1915 in Llandudno.

Jane Ann was in a Public Assistance Institution, Bangor Road, Conway in 1939.

David
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 15 September 24 10:24 BST (UK)
Is the Pensarn Farm address in 1921
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: DCB on Sunday 15 September 24 10:35 BST (UK)
There is a newspaper article, in The North Wales Weekly News on 19th September 1946, about the marriage. Gladys was the daughter of the late Mr. S Davies and Mrs A. Davies of 17 David Street, Penmaenmawr.

Annie Davies, born 2 Apr 1892, is at 17 David Street in 1939, with Eurwyn born on 9 Mar 1924, but no Gladys.

David
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: DCB on Sunday 15 September 24 12:45 BST (UK)
Sorry. Yes, the Pensarn address is the 1921 census.

David
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: DCB on Sunday 15 September 24 14:38 BST (UK)
Quite a lot of children blanked out at 17 David Street on the 1839 census, so one could be Gladys.

Not certain, but there is a marriage of Annie Williams, in Conway District Jan-Mar 1924, to Shadrach Davies, and a death of Shadrach Davies in Jul-Sep 1931, born c1881.

In 1911, there was a Sadrach Davies, born Caernarfon in 1882, boarding at Celyn Villa Penmaenmawr, Dwygyfylchi, Caernarvonshire.

In 1921, he was still at Celyn Villa, transcribed as Sadiack, brother of Edward Davies, whom was born in 1876.

The marriage article states that Edward Davies, of Celyn Villa, was the uncle of Gladys and gave her away.

In 1901 Shadrach was also with his brother at Hwynfryn Cottage, Paradise Crescent, Dwygyfylchi, Conway, Caernarvonshire.

David
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: DCB on Sunday 15 September 24 15:45 BST (UK)
In 1891, Sadrach Janes (Jones) Davey (Davies) was at 5, Mary Street, Llanbeblig, Carnarvon, Caernarvonshire, with John Davies, a sailor born 1831, Sarah Mary, born 1838, and Edward William, born 1876.

Edward was also there in 1881 with his mother and four siblings.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WS-J7HX but missing two children, Morris and Edward

1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5B6-FCC

Edward William married Jane Ellen Jones in Conway District Oct-Dec 1899.

I can't find Shadrach's birth, unless he was Shadrach Jones, born Apr-Jun 1883 in Bangor District.

David
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: anneelaine on Friday 20 September 24 21:51 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone ,I have now a lot to work on .
Title: Re: Gladys Davies
Post by: anneelaine on Friday 20 September 24 21:58 BST (UK)
DCB Thank for the names
I can now look into it .
Thank you