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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: Lola5 on Tuesday 10 September 24 18:04 BST (UK)
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A long time ago I downloaded a will for John Burley in Theberton from the National archives ( £3.50). I had it on my old dead laptop. I did not know about memory sticks then.
I would like another copy but no luck with National Archives whatever info I put in.
It must still be there.
Any help with this greatly appreciated.
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A date would be a good idea Lola!
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Is it this one?
https://nrocatalogue.norfolk.gov.uk/index.php/burley-john-gentleman-of-theberton-suffolk
In which case it should be available to view at FamilySearch
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Bless you.!
I did not know Norfolk record office had this super service...so easy. Ordered and paid for. It is for my daughter.
I searched all yesterday on and off National Archives which is where it was before with no luck and NRO just wouldn't, have entered my head.
Thank you.mkcha489
And Goldie..yes I should have put in a date 1857.
I have happy memories of N R 0. Lovely ,helpful people there..
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Sorry I didn't see this topic earlier.
Perhaps the lovely people at the Norfolk Record Office are not allowed to be helpful enough to divulge that NCC wills are available free of charge from FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/278818), as advised by mckha489.
The 1857 register is unpaginated, so I checked the NRO catalogue for a couple of other testators' folio numbers before finding John Burley of Theberton (711) at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C398-DSJ9-T?i=361&cat=278818 (will no 288: images 362 to 368 of 508).
David
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Thank you David,
I have great difficulty now in getting into family search. It used to just be automatic when I put my user name in...then one day , years later, it asked me for password. Could not remember so made a new one...saved by Google and duck duck go.
But family search refuses it so virtually given up.
Besides N RO are sending me a copy and that is what is wanted.
Expected the price to have gone up... ( Over 6 times). Like everything.
Not been to NRO for about 18 yrs .
I never expected the will to be at Norfolk and Suffolk record office didn't answer the phone .
And I am very pleased that someone on here knew where to guide me.
Now if only someone could only find me James Sheppard supposedly born Theberton 1792 /4.
Married Mary Barber in Leiston in 1814
I was told he was son of John Sheppard in Fressingfield. Spent long years researching that line back, spent whole day looking at the tombstones in Fressingfield and Stradbroke freezing weather, for clues. Was told just couple of weeks ago that John Sheppard father of James was not mine just a week before tree was to be printed for daughter
So deleted all those lines.
So who was my James Sheppard ?
Does anyone out there know.
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Hi Lola5,
These entries might help - taken from the Suffolk FHS Baptisms Cd;
1-1-1792 James Shepherd s/o James & Hannah (born 5-12-1791) Theberton - St.Peter (mmn= Easter)
also others;
28-10-1798 John Shepherd s/o " " Leiston -St.Margaret (mmn=Eastaugh)
8-6-1800 Hannah Shepherd d/o " " " " (mmn=Eastaugh)
28-3-1802 Hannah " " " " " " "
25-11-1804 Esther " " " " " " "
some more may be avaiable if you require them.
Alan
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David
Me again. Amazingly I was able to follow your link and got into family search. Thank you.
Read the will...only it is not like the one I had years ago.
It is different writing. The other blacker and harder to read .
It is very verbose.( now I know where I get the verbosity from)
I wondered why he left his daughter Elizabeth ot but she had died the year before.
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Alan,
The word genius springs to mind....after 30 pyears of my searching to no avail...you,ve found him.
How did you do it.?
Thank you .
It has made my day.
St Peter.s records ..where are they kept?
I went all round St Peter,s Graveyard but no Sheppards did I find.
James is buried at
St. Margaret.s Leiston
All the census says born Theberton. He was an ag lab but not stupid and would know his birthplace.
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Hi Lola5,
I believe the majority, if not all, of the original registers are held in the Suffolk Records Office in Ipswich.
I have not had any success in finding the marriage of James Shepherd to a Mary Barber in Suffolk - possibly they married in another county.
So far as burials I have found these which may not be the correct ones but are included for ref;
16-9-1876 James Sheppard 84 Leiston - St.Margaret
1-5-1836 " Shepherd 74 " "
2-4-1818 " " 23 Fressingfield - Sts.Peter & Paul
Alan
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Lola5,
Just found this marriage;
27-12-1814 James Shepherd - m - Mary Barber in Leiston with Sizewell.
Taken from the Suffolk FHS marriage CD.
Alan
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Thank you Alan, v good of you to give me so much of your time.
I had the marriage.. in Leiston.thanks .from the Suffolk cd of marriages.
It must be in one of the boxes or I gave it away.
Easter or Eashaugh is intriguing.
BUT why did James and Mary never have a Hannah?
Ancestry always has name as Sheppard. It is Shepherd on Henry.s marriage cert to Emily.
Henry was James and Mary,s son and my GT GT grandad.
Then there was, James, Mary,Adam, Tryphena, Susan, Elizabeth and a Daniel and William but
No Hannah. No Augusta either but Emily had an Augusta.
Thank you again.
The James you found must be mine...and now I have his parents names.
Very grateful...no more record office visits as rarely go out of house.
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Hi Lola5,
BUT why did James and Mary never have a Hannah?.
They did and 2 other children;
Henry Shepherd bapt. 13-6-1819 Leiston, St.Margaret (s/o James & Mary - late Barber
Maria " " 11-4-1830 " " d/o " "
Hannah " " 19-4-1835 " " " " "
I could not see any others. Do these help?
Alan
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Yes Alan. That helps enormously. Thank you.
I had all the others except Hannah.
You finding James was the icing on the cake and any extras are the candles.
As for Easter or Easthaugh they go back a long way in Norfolk and Suffolk .and loads of Hannahs.
I was always sceptical about the Fressingfield Shepherds being mine.
John and Susanna, Shepherd (of Fressingfield) had James born 1793 died aged 23 and their James of 1791 and 1792 died as infants. So they couldn't,t be mine yet there are trees on ancestry that have my people on ....and they are all wrong.
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Hi Lola5,
I have just read all this thread and am so happy for you that you have found your people.
These Rootschatters are just to brilliant at what they do.
But I could not help laughing, reading your last post and the comment re all the wrong trees .....
I have exactly the same issue and problem and it is useless trying to do anything about it . ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers and have a lovely day.
Essnell :)
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Thank you essnell,
I am glad you are happy...happy is good.
Wasn't that a good thing Alan finding James.. after all these years.
I am so amazed at how kind folk are on here and give their time to help.
They have always helped me... A lovely lady found my Welsh house and later I was able to find it's history.
I have remembered it all my life.
And K Garrod and and Haenes talu helped with the Irish ones
Wasn't it lucky too that I deleted all the Feveryear , Rous etc lines before it went to Ron at genealogy printers.. incidentally he was fantastic and went over and above to help me. Daughter was delighted.
As was I. And price was very very reasonable.
So thank you all.
Lola
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Hi Lola5,
In case you're interested there are several Hannah Easter baptisms in Suffolk, of various spellings, but the ones that stand out are;
19-4-1767 d/o Robert & Ann Easter Theberton - St.Peter
16-4-1769 " Anne " " "
Other variations includes bapts. for;
Elizabeth 13-5-1761 d/o Robert & Ann Eastaugh
Robert 11-9-1763 s/o " " "
John 12-5-1771 s/o Robert & Anne Easter
all in Theberton - St.Peter
Alan
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Thank you Alan,
Yes very interested.
All noted down gratefully.
I was looking for a Hannah Easter or Easthaugh all yesterday and this morning but no luck. Didn't think to look for Ann.
Dialect makes a difference....!
Ancestry, the genealogist etc.family search...Theberton folk very thin on the ground..
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Hallo Alan, found the marriage of Hannah Easter to James Shepherd 16 th Nov 1791.
At St Margaret's Leiston birth of James Dec 1791 _ just in time_ and baptised 1'st Jan. 1792..
So all ties in
Hannah,s parents Robert And Ann Easter. As you say.
Thanks for getting me on the right track.
I started off doing family history to find out where the music gene came from.
Never found it...but found gardeners and horsemen, some carpenters and craftspeople.
And some very stoical people.
Imagine still being an ag lab...not retired...at 90.
Thank you.