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Title: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: wilrob on Tuesday 03 September 24 12:24 BST (UK)
Hi everyone ...i am trying to find the parents of Catherine Miller born 5th Dec. 1901 Newcastle upon Tyne.
I have her marriage record but this doesnt name her father any help would be appreciated thank you 
Title: Re: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: AllanUK on Tuesday 03 September 24 13:15 BST (UK)
Nothing found in the civil birth registrations for 1901. However, in the first quarter 1902, there is the following birth registration:

Catherine Mabel Miller
Newcastle upon Tyne District
Volume 10B
Page 173

Mother's maiden name Brown
Title: Re: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: AllanUK on Tuesday 03 September 24 13:17 BST (UK)
Have you the actual marriage certificate?

If not, what year did Catherine marry?
Title: Re: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: Kloumann on Tuesday 03 September 24 13:34 BST (UK)
The 1911 census for Heaton, has a Katherine Mabel Miller age 9 living with parents, William Miller & Isabel.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWMD-23P

She is also on the 1921 census along with a sister, Dorothy Isabel, born 1905
Title: Re: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: Kloumann on Tuesday 03 September 24 13:40 BST (UK)
Isabel Brown, christened 17 June 1877, Widdrington. Parents, Robert Brown & Catherine Mabel.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1N1-8YY
Title: Re: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: wilrob on Tuesday 03 September 24 13:58 BST (UK)
Hi thank you everyone Catherine married May 1923...but she had a son James in June 1921 under her (maiden name)of Miller i have been trying to hunt to see if Miller is a first marriage and getting in a right old muddle  ;D .....I will go through whats been sent thank you
Title: Re: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: Kloumann on Tuesday 03 September 24 14:02 BST (UK)
Who were named as witnesses on the marriage cert?

What was groom's name?
Title: Re: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: wilrob on Tuesday 03 September 24 14:05 BST (UK)
I dont have marriage cert. but the marriage is on F.Search as Catherinum Miller and Jacobi Nugent (James) non conformist church 5.5.23
Title: Re: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: AllanUK on Tuesday 03 September 24 14:24 BST (UK)
The 1939 Register records:

James Nugent, DOB 26/6/1898, Occupation - Furnaceman, Fuse & Casting Dept
Catherine (A) Nugent, DOB 5/12/1901, Occupation - Forewoman, Botting Store
James Nugent, DOB 18/4/1921, Occupation - Lathe Hand
Catherine Nugent, DOB 13/8/1923, Occupation - Packer, Flour Mill
Address -- 131 Pine Street, Newcastle upon Tyne


I think that this isn't Catherine Mabel as she is down as Catherine (A)
Title: Re: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: AllanUK on Tuesday 03 September 24 14:28 BST (UK)
she had a son James in June 1921 under her (maiden name)of Miller

I think that you should purchase his birth certificate to see if the father's name is on it.
Title: Re: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: wilrob on Tuesday 03 September 24 14:30 BST (UK)
Hi yup i have that the son James has is surname as Nugent but i cannot find a birth for him but when you look up James Miller there is a birth there for 1921 and maiden name Miller   ::) thats why i was wondering if she had been married previously and the Miller the father had died yup my brain just goes off on its own little tangent  ;D
Title: Re: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: AllanUK on Tuesday 03 September 24 14:35 BST (UK)
Hi yup i have that the son James has is surname as Nugent but i cannot find a birth for him but when you look up James Miller there is a birth there for 1921 and maiden name Miller   ::) thats why i was wondering if she had been married previously and the Miller the father had died yup my brain just goes off on its own little tangent  ;D

You need to purchase (1) the marriage certificate of James Nugent and Catherine Miller and (2) the birth certificate of James Miller -- this is the only way to see if there is (3) the father's name of Catgherine Miller and (4) the father's name of James.
Title: Re: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: Kloumann on Tuesday 03 September 24 14:38 BST (UK)
There is no MMN on the GRO for James.
Title: Re: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: wilrob on Tuesday 03 September 24 14:42 BST (UK)
That is very true ....i will order James birth certificate and thank you everyone  ;D
Title: Re: Looking for the parents of Catherine
Post by: Kloumann on Tuesday 03 September 24 14:59 BST (UK)
Would her death cert in 1979 give any more clues? Her middle name was Ann.