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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: Tom Langley on Tuesday 27 August 24 20:35 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find out anything I can about The Manor, a house in Shocklach in Cheshire. I have found quite a lot going back to the 1830s, but prior to this I have been unable to find anymore. It was built c1775 but it is believed an earlier house was on the site called the Hay House.
Can anyone suggest anywhere to look for more information? I did wonder if the house may have been owned by the lords of the manor, the Puleston family. The earliest person owning the house I can find is Francis Povey.
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Chester Courant
27 October 1767
To be sold
The Manor of Shocklach, in the county of Chester.
For particulars apply to Thomas Puleston of Emrall, Esq, at his seat in Flintshire
Or to Mr Thomas Hayman, attorney-at-law in Wrexham, Denbighshire
But could “the Manor” refer to an area of land rather than a house?
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Aris's Birmingham Gazette
08 October 1764
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Similar in Aris's Birmingham Gazette
15 August 1763
Includes “late the estate of John Puleston of Emrall, deceased”
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This is what has made it tricky to search. I think this refers to the manor of shocklach being an area rather that this house specifically.
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Hay house in 1811
Francis Povey
Chester Courant
15 October 1811
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Presume you have been through the Cheshire Archives catalogue?
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That’s sounds very possible! Maybe it wasn’t an earlier house but an earlier name of the same house.
Where can I see the Chester courant? I’ve a subscription to newspapers.com but didn’t find it there
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Could you send me a link to it please?
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Courant is on FindMyPast which have same newspapers as Newspaper archive, or so I understood
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BNA
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results/1811-01-01/1812-12-31?basicsearch=%2bfrancis%20%2bpovey.%20%2bshocklach&freesearch=francis%20povey.%20shocklach&retrievecountrycounts=false&sortorder=score
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I assume you’ve been here - https://maps.cheshireeast.gov.uk/tithemaps/ ?
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There is a suggestion that the word Hay derives from a large enclosure, a substantial hedge, hence an early medieval park. A frequent name in the west midlands.
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"Cary's New Map of England and Wales, ....", published Jun 11 1794
List of Places given in Cary's map ....
Shocklach ............ Cheshire ... page 40
Shocklach Green ... " ... "
Shocklach Hall ...... " ... "
(Snipped from page 40)
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Thank you all for the information. Looking at the newspaper fron 1811 it looks like Francis Povey may have bought the Hay House after after it went up to sale with other local land. The paper is damaged at the bottom but I cam make out "plans of the lots may be seen at Mr ........stone's office, Friars....
I had thought it may be Pulestone who were the landed gentry, but searching "office friars" comes up with Mr Humberstone.
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https://www.cheshirewestandchester.gov.uk/
Wills
Povey, John Shocklach1682
Povey, John Socklach1685