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Title: Children from England.
Post by: grandarog on Tuesday 27 August 24 12:02 BST (UK)
Wonder if any one recognises their ancestors on this photo. 1948 leaving England.
Title: Re: Children from England.
Post by: brigidmac on Tuesday 27 August 24 18:21 BST (UK)
What a wonderful photo do you have the name and date of the ship

Maybe there is a list somewhere
Title: Re: Children from England.
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 27 August 24 23:23 BST (UK)
The boys seem to be all dressed the same - were they from an institution (orphanage) perhaps?
Title: Re: Children from England.
Post by: Wiggy on Tuesday 27 August 24 23:48 BST (UK)
In the 1980s someone started uncovering stories of children sent to Australia from UK . . from orphanages etc.   

This is not the same . . .but similar.  I presume you know that story.

The film 'Oranges and Sunshine' comes to mind.

Title: Re: Children from England.
Post by: Cats1723 on Wednesday 28 August 24 00:43 BST (UK)
It was a complete scandal, the child migration schemes, the children were nearly all not orphans, when reaching Australia, they were often used as child slave labor on farms etc, many of them were subjected  to  physical, mental and sexual abuse. 
Maragret Humpries was the first to expose what had happened to many of these children, she was subject to death threats and shots were fired at the house where she was staying.
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Humphreys
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Children
see https://www.childmigrantstrust.org/

eventually both the Australian and British government apologized for the treatment of these children.


This photo makes me sad to know what faced these children, once  they got to Australia
Title: Re: Children from England.
Post by: Wiggy on Wednesday 28 August 24 01:01 BST (UK)
OP says 1948 and the clothes these children are wearing look more like that era than 1980s. 
It is some time since I've seen the film and I can't remember if it spoke about children of that decade or children from the decade pictured in OP's post.
I do remember that film depicted children NOT mainly from orphanages.  Very sad episode.

I might have taken the thread right off track.  If so, I'm really sorry.
Title: Re: Children from England.
Post by: Cats1723 on Wednesday 28 August 24 01:45 BST (UK)
book 'Empty Cradles' by Maragret Humphreys
movie based on the book
Oranges and Sunshine

 
The child migration scheme to Australia run from shortly after WW2 to the early 1970's

The migration scheme also  saw more than 100,000 children sent from Britain to Canada between 1869 and the 1930s.



Title: Re: Children from England.
Post by: Nova67 on Wednesday 28 August 24 12:42 BST (UK)
David Hill: The Forgotten Children

https://www.findandconnect.gov.au/pubresource/the-forgotten-children-fairbridge-farm-school-and-its-betrayal-of-australias-child-migrants/
Title: Re: Children from England.
Post by: Nova67 on Wednesday 28 August 24 12:47 BST (UK)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Leaving_of_Liverpool_(TV_series)
Title: Re: Children from England.
Post by: Erato on Wednesday 28 August 24 16:04 BST (UK)
It happened in the United States, too, although the children were not sent overseas, but rather too farm families in the western states.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orphan_Train
Title: Re: Children from England.
Post by: brigidmac on Wednesday 28 August 24 21:54 BST (UK)
Grandarog where did you get this photo and can you identify one of the children

I'm sure someone could find a shipping list if we had an exact name and date to start with .
I'd be happy to look.
Title: Re: Children from England.
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 28 August 24 22:53 BST (UK)
Grandarog where did you get this photo and can you identify one of the children

There is a fairly good chance that many in the photo are still alive, and therefore they should not be identified in a public forum such as this.
Title: Re: Children from England.
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Thursday 29 August 24 00:26 BST (UK)
As OP is not replying, for those who are interested, here is the image:
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/group-of-young-emigrants-from-the-fairbridge-farm-schools-news-photo/3352835

"18th December 1948: A group of young emigrants from the Fairbridge Farm Schools at Tilbury, England sailing on the liner Ormonde to a new life at the Kingsley Fairbridge Farm School at Pinjarra, Western Australia."

Agree with Neale1961 that the children should not be identified lest they still be living, but thought it would be good to identify the image.

For those who want to know how to identify the origins of images, you can upload a copy of the image into Google Lens (https://images.google.co.uk/ - click the little camera icon on the search bar), which will then inform you of matching images online.

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Children from England.
Post by: Nova67 on Thursday 29 August 24 00:32 BST (UK)
I agree this is a very sensitive topic.  Thanks for posting Queenie.

It is the top pinned topic on the Australia forum given its sensitivity:

A RootsChat Database for British Home Children in Australia

added: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=720118.0
Title: Re: Children from England.
Post by: grandarog on Saturday 07 September 24 09:48 BST (UK)
Thankyou for all your replies and interest. Sorry I could not respond until now as I suffered a major internet failure on 27 Aug which has taken until today to sort out.
 
As some you think this subject picture is too sensitive as many in the photo may still be with us I will delete the Post.

Could a moderator please advise whether i Should delete or let the post run . Thankyou Grandarog  :)