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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: dusty on Tuesday 27 August 24 06:22 BST (UK)
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I’m trying to find the birth date of my GG Grandmother Elizabeth Sarah Allen, in Carlton/Melbourne, Victoria in 1853. She was 38 in 1891 on her death certificate.
Parents are William Edward Allen & Eliza Cantlon.
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"I’m trying to find the birth date of my GG Grandmother Elizabeth Sarah Allen, in Carlton/Melbourne, Victoria in 1853. She was 38 in 1891 on her death certificate.
Parents are William Edward Allen & Eliza Cantlon."
Are you seeing all of this information on the death certificate?
She died as Elizabeth Sarah Allen?....in Victoria?
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She died as Elizabeth Sarah Simpson. I have her death certificate, hoping to confirm a birth date for her
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Can you list all the information on the death certificate, 1891, that you have.
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This is possibly the marriage record for Charles and Eliza, 1871 -
ALLEN Elizabeth Sarah marr. SIMPSON, Charles James 4701/1871
The marriage certificate has information that Elizabeth gives about herself.
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Checking Victoria BMD index there's a probable 1842 (Allen/Cantlon) marriage and possible births -
James Phillip 1843, Lucy Ann 1850, William Gilbert 1851 - Collingwood
Catherine Lucy 1855 Melb,
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Also
William Edward 1857#13038. E. Melb
Charles David 1859#17525. Melb
Sue
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Plus Peter Albert 1862 and Rachel Jane 1864 - Melb.
Eliza, c. 1853, missing is a puzzle?
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No help with birth and you may already have these notices - death and funeral
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/190622299
SIMPSON.-On the 29th June, at 70 Mary Street Richmond, Elizabeth Sarah, the dearly beloved wife of Charles James Simpson Loved by all,
Deeply regretted.
Worthy of true respect was she
From those she left behind
A better wife could never be,
A friend most true and kind.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/190631911
THE Friends of Mr. CHARLES SIMPSON, employe of Bedgood and Co., are respectfully invited to follow the remains of his late beloved wife, Elizabeth Sarah, to the place of interment, the Boroondara Cemetery, Kew. The funeral to move from his residence, Mary-street, Richmond, on WEDNESDAY, the 1st of July, at 3 o'clock p.m.
HERBERT KING, Undertaker, Lennox-street, Richmond; 157 Swan-street, East Richmond; Burwood road, Hawthorn: and Hopkins-street. Footscray. Tel. 912
Bedgood was shoemaking firm, actually spelt Bedggood.
Booroondara Cemetery site has this information:
ELIZABETH SARAH SIMPSON
Date of Birth, Unknown Age 38
Buried Date 1 Jul 1891
Others here: MAUDE SIMPSON
GEORGE THOMAS SIMPSON
CHARLES JAMES SIMPSON
Location Plot: Church of England/A/246
Boroondara General Cemetery
Judith
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Parents are William Edward Allen & Eliza Cantlon.
Eliza died 1892, there is a will online in VIC archives for her. The will is dated 1888 so written up before Elizabeth Sarah died.
The will has kids as .. William Edward, Charles David, Peter Albert, Mary Ann, Elizabeth Sarah, Catherine Lucy and Rachel Jane.
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Civil registration started in July 1853 so if Elizabeth was born before that then you are looking for a church baptism. I can see that Lucy was baptised at St Peter's in 1850 and William Gilbert was baptised in 1851 but not at St Peter's. The next child was Catherine whose birth was registered in 1855.
Elizabeth was either not baptised or the church records were not available to the Vic registry for indexing, or if she was born after July 1853, her birth was not registered.
Debra :)