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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: robang66 on Monday 26 August 24 21:30 BST (UK)
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My granduncle, Alfred Wilhelm (William) Hansen married Mary Carmel Krisin on 3 December 1932 in Queensland. From that date, I cannot find anything further on Mary Carmel, birth, death or census records. He died 7 Jan 1952 and is interred at Mount Thompson Crematorium, Brisbane. Have tried researching her as Mary Carmel, or Carmel Mary. I don't know if she passed away as Hansen, Krisin or if she remarried.
Please, I would appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks!
Robang
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Alfred William Hansen is a fairly common name. There are more than 1 man with the same name.
Do you have the 1932 marriage certificate to see if that is the correct William?
William’s funeral notice only refers to his wife as Mrs A W Hansen (not very helpful). It does provide an address and name other family members.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/216529466?searchTerm=%22Alfred%20W%20Hansen%22
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Your Alfred Wilhelm was born abt 1886 to parents, Johannes Andreas Hansen and Wilhelmina Brandenburg.
Electoral rolls show his occupation was "storeman". He lived and worked in Brisbane, first at Welsby street, Newfarm and later at Joseph St., Camphill.
He married in 1915 to Ruby Gladys Cumner
Ruby was the daughter of Isaac Cumner and Hannah Emelia Llyod.
Alfred William Hansen (a storeman) and Ruby appear in the electoral rolls as living together up to late 1940s
I can see that Ruby died in 1966.
Ruby Gladys Hansen is living in 1950s to 1963 at the same Camphill address - 56 Joseph St. that is mentioned in the funeral notice for William, that I posted.
The Hansen-Krisin marriage must be a different man. I can see it was not a Brisbane marriage.
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Cumner family funeral notices confirm link to the Hansen family.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/21313561?searchTerm=%E2%80%9CIsaac%2520cumner%E2%80%9D
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Have you checked this line?
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Gallery151/dist/JGalleryViewer.aspx?B=6951349&S=14&N=18&R=0#/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=6951349&T=P&S=14
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=6951349
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Thanks to everyone for replying and helping me with this. Much appreciated.
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1953 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/50555250
In Memoriam:
HANSEN, Alfred.— In loving memory of my Husband. Alf, who departed this life suddenly January 7th, 1952.
In silence I remember.
Inserted by his loving Wife, Gladys.
HANSEN, Alfred.— In loving memory of my Father, Father-in-law, Grand-father, who departed this life suddenly January 7th, 1952.
Remembrance.
Inserted by Daughter, Son-in-law, Grandson, Phyllis, George, and Wayne Rogers.
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Thanks so much for this. I see that his wife's name is Gladys so I;m supposing she dropped the Ruby somewhere along the line though she's recorded as Ruby Gladys in census records.
I have tried to find her death notice, funeral notice etc. which cemetery etc. but can find nothing. I believe she died 8-4-1966 according to the Queensland BDM records. Do you have any ideas where I could be searching further?
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Qld birth:
Phyllis Lorraine Hansen
Birth date: 15/08/1916
Mother's name: Ruby Gladys Cumner
Father/parent's name: Alfred William Hansen
Registration details: 1916/C/8906
Marriage:
Phyllis Lorraine Hansen
Marriage date: 12/07/1941
Spouse's name: Stanley George Rogers
Registration details: 1941/B/44704
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/256108168/phyllis-lorraine-rogers
Phyllis Lorraine Rogers
BIRTH: unknown
DEATH: 12 Oct 1996
Age: 80
BURIAL: Caloundra Cemetery
Son: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/256108169/wayne-stanley-rogers
Wayne Stanley Rogers
BIRTH: unknown
DEATH: 21 Jun 1991
Age: 48
BURIAL: Caloundra Cemetery
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https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LBHF-ZTJ/ruby-gladys-cumner-1894-1966
Ruby Gladys Cumner was born on 15 March 1894, in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, her father, Isaac Cumner jnr., was 51 and her mother, Hannah Amelia Lloyd, was 47. She married Alfred William Hansen on 3 July 1915, in Queensland, Australia. They were the parents of at least 1 daughter. She died on 8 April 1966, in her hometown, at the age of 72, and was buried in Wondai Cemetery, Wondai, Queensland, Australia.
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Confusion reigns; Ruth Gladys was recorded in the 1963 census as living at 56 Joseph Street, Camp Hill, where Alfred appeared to be living with her up until 1952 when he died.
I have not been able to even guess why she would be buried in Wondai, 150 miles from Brisbane. Her parents, Isaac and Hannah, were buried in Toowong Cemetery.
This move to Wondai doesn't make sense.
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Ruth Gladys was recorded in the 1963 census as living at 56 Joseph Street, Camp Hill, ...
The 1963 Electoral roll records Ruby Gladys at Joseph St., Camp Hill. NOTE - This is NOT a census.
I looked for her burial yesterday, without success. A burial in Wondai would seem odd, but not impossible if she had died while there visiting someone.
Most likely place for her burial would be Mt Thompson Crematorium, not only because her husband is there, but it is the nearest to Camp Hill. The find-a-grave site for Mt Thompson Crematorium is NOT complete. I have many of my family members interred there who do not appear on the site.
You can contact Mt Thompson Crematorium by email and ask them to check.
https://www.mtthompsoncrem.com.au/contact/
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Thanks! I will contact Mount Thompson. My error - they are electoral rolls not census. Thanks for reminding me.
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Just a quick note - Ruby Gladys Hansen's death was registered in Brisbane, so it is most likely that she died in Brisbane, not Wondai.
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That makes sense. I have sent off an enquiry to Mount Thompson. I'll let you know when I receive a reply.