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Title: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: tamarakel on Saturday 24 August 24 00:01 BST (UK)
I was wondering if there are any records available for who was staying in the cottage homes in the North Shields/Tynemouth area in the 1860-1870's? or if anyone had any information on what their life would have been like? I believe two of my 4x great grand uncles/aunts, might have stayed in them. Any help is appreciated,

Hello from Canada,

Tamara
Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: Jebber on Saturday 24 August 24 09:05 BST (UK)
I suggest you take a look at Peter Higgins website, you will find lots of information about Cottage Homes there, it’s the go to site for Workhouses and children’s homes.

 childrenshomes.org.uk

Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 24 August 24 12:16 BST (UK)
I live in the wider Tyneside area but haven't heard of any 'Cottage Homes' there but these links  might be relevant:

https://ainsworthspark.com/projects/mariners-homes-tynemouth/

https://historicengland.org.uk/services-skills/education/educational-images/trinity-house-almshouses-tynemouth-5260

Also

https://www.workhouses.org.uk/Tynemouth/  and scroll down to 'Scattered Homes'

(add - the 'Scattered Homes' seem likely if your relatives were young girls)



Gadget




Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 24 August 24 12:23 BST (UK)
I think this is the link to the Workhouse link that Jebber referred to

https://www.workhouses.org.uk/cottagehomes/
Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: Jebber on Saturday 24 August 24 12:26 BST (UK)
Gadget, Cottage Homes were a spin off from the workhouses. They were meant to get children off the streets and away from the bad influences of some people in the workhouse. The idea was to give the children some education and train them for future employment. As with the workhouses, some cottages homes were better than others.
Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 24 August 24 13:00 BST (UK)
Yes, I know. I don't think I explained myself very well    I meant that I'd not heard the term used up here - they seem to have been called 'Scattered Homes'

Loctated at
 Earsdon, Monkseaton,
Park Crescent and Queen Alexandra Road,  North Shields
These are mentioned in the Scattered Homes section that I referred to.

Gadget

Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: Jebber on Saturday 24 August 24 13:07 BST (UK)
Sorry, I misunderstood, I was rather surprised that you appeared not to have hear of them. I know they went under different names. There was rather a scandal about the Cottage Homes attached to our workhouse, so they weren't always particularly nice or safe places for the children.
Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 24 August 24 13:21 BST (UK)
My maternal grandfather was in a workhouse that had no separate housing  for the children. He is shown, aged 3,  on the 1871 census in the main buildings but then was apprenticed to a local butcher by 1881.

He didn't tell his children.  I discovered it later.
Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 24 August 24 13:33 BST (UK)
There a short piece on the difference  between Scattered Homes and Cottage Homes here:

https://www.workhouses.org.uk/scatteredhomes/
Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 24 August 24 15:07 BST (UK)
Park Crescent   https://tinyurl.com/5j8cwjxs
Queen Alexndra Road  https://tinyurl.com/34px7p5r

Add - so far I've  not located either of the addresses on the 1861 or 1871 census address listings
Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: tamarakel on Sunday 25 August 24 21:13 BST (UK)
Gadget, Cottage Homes were a spin off from the workhouses. They were meant to get children off the streets and away from the bad influences of some people in the workhouse. The idea was to give the children some education and train them for future employment. As with the workhouses, some cottages homes were better than others.

Thank you for the info, you are right. Their mother died in the workhouse in 1871 and I can't find them afterwards in any census records, marriage/death records. So I was wondering if that's where they might have gone?
Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: tamarakel on Sunday 25 August 24 21:17 BST (UK)
I suggest you take a look at Peter Higgins website, you will find lots of information about Cottage Homes there, it’s the go to site for Workhouses and children’s homes.

 childrenshomes.org.uk

Thank you for the info, Jebber. you are right, I have been on this website in the past but I never even considered the "cottages" until I watched an episode of "Who do you think you are" (Paddy McGuiness) and it made me think about them and what could have happened to them.
Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: tamarakel on Sunday 25 August 24 21:19 BST (UK)
I live in the wider Tyneside area but haven't heard of any 'Cottage Homes' there but these links  might be relevant:

https://ainsworthspark.com/projects/mariners-homes-tynemouth/

https://historicengland.org.uk/services-skills/education/educational-images/trinity-house-almshouses-tynemouth-5260

Also

https://www.workhouses.org.uk/Tynemouth/  and scroll down to 'Scattered Homes'

(add - the 'Scattered Homes' seem likely if your relatives were young girls)



Gadget

From what I can see they started calling them "scattered homes" after 1893, so this would have been earlier. I was thinking of asking the archive in that area if they have any records.
Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 August 24 21:29 BST (UK)
Tyne an Wear Archives might have some info.

https://twarchives.org.uk/collection/catalogue
Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 August 24 21:40 BST (UK)
There's an old post on here which lists the available records. It looks as if the years that you want seem to be missing.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=650353.0

Add - also here 
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1177995?availability=Family%20History%20Library
Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: tamarakel on Monday 26 August 24 20:22 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help!
Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 15 September 24 17:30 BST (UK)
My Great Granny was a resident of Tynemouth workhouse for most of her childhood, until she was sent to the scattered home at Ponteland, her records of admittance and of her leaving were at the Discovery centre in Tynemouth, not an awful lot of detail, there are also minute books for Tynemouth workhouse, held in the family history section of North Shields library, I found entries for a member of my family mentioned in those, (boarding out minutes ) I think they were called
Title: Re: Cottage Homes near Norh Shields/Tynemouth area
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 15 September 24 17:31 BST (UK)
perhaps make a email enquiry to the archives in Newcastle to see when your ancestors were admitted