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Title: The British Library
Post by: goldie61 on Tuesday 20 August 24 22:58 BST (UK)
I've finally managed to track down the documents at The British Library relating to an East India Company ship in the early 1800s, which might shed some light on what looks like a complete change of occupation during the missing 10 years of an ancestor.

I emailed them yesterday to enquire if there was any way I could get some research done there. (They replied within an hour which I thought was very impressive, given there were dire warnings on their website that it might take quite a long time to get a reply, as they are still recovering from the cyber attack in October last year).
They do not have any sort of research service there.
It's aways frustrating living 12 and a half thousand miles away when the only way to look at  documents is to do so in person.

Does any kind person ever visit The British Library, or know of any researcher that does work there?
I'm willing to pay.

I don't think it would be too onerous a task.
Some of the documents involve 'Crew Lists' and 'Pay lists', so picking out his name would be fairly straightforward.
There are also 4 'Ledgers', which I'm, guessing would be the day to day diary of the ship.
He may or may not be mentioned in these, but I wouldn't expect anybody to plough their way through them on the off chance.
I have the actual journeys of the voyages, so it is just to see what information I can find out about this one individual who worked on the ship.

Thank you for any help


Title: Re: The British Library
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 21 August 24 01:22 BST (UK)
I hired an AGRA genealogist once to look at some things at National Archives for me. It was money well spent as they also suggested other things I hadn’t realised existed.

Anyway these four show up as having British Library experience

https://www.agra.org.uk/membersearch
Title: Re: The British Library
Post by: AntonyMMM on Wednesday 21 August 24 09:23 BST (UK)
Most London/South East based AGRA members will be regular visitors to the British Library and should be able to help

I don't normally recommend a specific AGRA researcher, but for anything East India Company related I would always start with Mike Trenchard. He knows the subject, and the records, inside out.
Title: Re: The British Library
Post by: GrahamSimons on Wednesday 21 August 24 09:57 BST (UK)
I spent a day there some time ago. Staff ever so helpful and I found a few documents. A bit later I hired an AGRA researcher and he found far more information - he was much better value than a rail ticket to London (and far, far better than a plane ticket from Australia!). Mike Trenchard of the Trenchard Partnership - his website shows that he's still in action.
Title: Re: The British Library
Post by: goldie61 on Wednesday 21 August 24 22:16 BST (UK)
Thanks everybody for your advice.

I have put out some feelers to several AGRA members, so we will see what they say. :)
Title: Re: The British Library
Post by: Kamante on Thursday 22 August 24 01:53 BST (UK)
In late 2022 Mr. Dorian Leveque of the British Library assisted me, via email, with finding details (crew lists; passenger lists) for several East India Company ships. If you want to contact me via PM, I can share an email address with you.
Title: Re: The British Library
Post by: goldie61 on Thursday 22 August 24 02:14 BST (UK)
Thanks for the offer Kamante.
I've sent you a PM.
Title: Re: The British Library
Post by: 12tootsi34 on Saturday 24 August 24 10:45 BST (UK)
Reading your blurb. Is the British Library the right place for your investigations. I would have thought it would have been the maritime library at Greenwich.
Title: Re: The British Library
Post by: goldie61 on Saturday 24 August 24 11:34 BST (UK)
Thanks for your comment
These ships' Journals, Pay Books etc are listed on The National Archives Discovery site as being at The British library.

The maritime library at Greenwich also sounds like somewhere to at look though.
Thanks
Title: Re: The British Library
Post by: GrahamSimons on Saturday 24 August 24 12:22 BST (UK)
Thanks for your comment
These ships' Journals, Pay Books etc are listed on The National Archives Discovery site as being at The British library.

The maritime library at Greenwich also sounds like somewhere to at look though.
Thanks
The records of the East India Company are all at the BL. One reason is that it was never a government department, despite being the effective ruler of India and having an enormous army!
Title: Re: The British Library
Post by: melba_schmelba on Saturday 24 August 24 14:01 BST (UK)
Ancestry has 'Registers of Employees of the East India Company and the India Office, 1746-1939'

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/61468/

and Findmypast has a lot of the British India records from the British Library

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/world-records/search-all-uk-records/special-collections/british-india-office-collection
Title: Re: The British Library
Post by: goldie61 on Saturday 24 August 24 21:44 BST (UK)
Thanks melba_schmelba

I did get some pension records from the findmypast collection, which led me to looking for the actual ship, and hence to the records at The British Library.

I had no joy with the collection on Ancestry.