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Title: Findmypast Sub
Post by: verezzi on Saturday 17 August 24 13:13 BST (UK)
Hi,

I am looking to sub to Findmypast ideally for one month only. I am finding all the options a bit confusing. I want the usual record access but I am also hoping to include the 1921 Census and if possible British Newspapers.

I am offered this monthly 'Everything' deal (attached) I am just checking if anyone knows if it will include the 1921 Census and also if it will be for only one month or is it going to try and tie me into 3, 6 or 12? Sorry if this is an obvious answer. I have a month off work from a busy job so don't mind playing slightly higher to just have it for one month.

Thank you, all the best,

Dan
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 17 August 24 13:26 BST (UK)
They make comparison easy.
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/subscribe?duration=1

So premium does include 1921, but its a 3 month minimum..

But as it's a personal-to-you offer, ask FindMyPast!
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: verezzi on Saturday 17 August 24 13:30 BST (UK)
Thanks, i saw the Premium but I want a month if possible, might give it a whirl then. Thank you
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: melba_schmelba on Saturday 17 August 24 23:08 BST (UK)
Thanks, i saw the Premium but I want a month if possible, might give it a whirl then. Thank you
The 7 day trial does not include the 1921 census, which seems fair imo.
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: Biggles50 on Sunday 18 August 24 11:03 BST (UK)
Sign up and blitz it for the 7 days.

The day after you subscribe cancel the auto renewal, £25 a month is way over the top for a subscription.  They say they have 5 million members, which is very small compared to Ancestry’s 25 million.

I got a FindMyPast everything for £140, which is still way more than the £89.99 Ancestry Worldwide that I pay, but for me it was worth it for the blanks I needed to fill in.

IMO once you have all the 1921 Census records that you need plus all the Newspaper articles checked there is little else of use on FindMyPast.  It does not do DNA so that makes it for me a very dubious site for anyone serious about producing a Biological Family Tree. 

I have got everything I need out of FindMyPast and whilst it is there I use Ancestry as my default family tree site.
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: bearkat on Sunday 18 August 24 11:14 BST (UK)
If you're in the UK, check what subscriptions your local library has for free.  It's not as convenient as researching at home but vey useful.
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: melba_schmelba on Sunday 18 August 24 11:25 BST (UK)
IMO once you have all the 1921 Census records that you need plus all the Newspaper articles checked there is little else of use on FindMyPast.  It does not do DNA so that makes it for me a very dubious site for anyone serious about producing a Biological Family Tree. 
Findmypast have a huge amount of records not on Ancestry, many thousands are being added monthly, including new Newspapers. I posted a long post here as to to why some of the blanket statements you and others make on the site (such as it only having UK records) are not really fair or correct. It is a site based on high quality records, mostly with much better image and transcription quality than Ancestry and without the completely nonsensical and false hints which Ancestry produces :o
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=884881.msg7579467#msg7579467
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 18 August 24 11:45 BST (UK)
AND if you find an error in transcription then it is easy to contact FindMyPast, who will acknowledge receipt AND invariably amend their mis-transcription.

Additions are made EVERY WEEK to records and newspapers.

I don't do DNA so cannot comment on that.
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 18 August 24 12:12 BST (UK)
I agree with BumbleB and Melba!

I ignore all "hints" from Ancestry - they are a waste of time.
I, too, don't do DNA.

And, FindMyPast and Ancestry have different databases.
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: Sloe Gin on Monday 19 August 24 18:47 BST (UK)
AND if you find an error in transcription then it is easy to contact FindMyPast, who will acknowledge receipt AND invariably amend their mis-transcription.

Yes - but they will only amend if they agree that your reading matches the original, even if the detail in the original is wrong.

Ancestry's approach is much better.  They add your interpretation to the index.  They don't remove the first transcription, but show that there is an alternative transcription.  All the alternative transcriptions are in the index so, whichever one you follow, you will arrive at the original and can make your own judgement.

It's not always a matter of mistranscription.  Sometimes we KNOW through our research or personal knowledge that something has been written down wrong, and Ancestry is open to this.


Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 19 August 24 22:49 BST (UK)
Ah, come on - no-one is psychic physic, are they>   :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 19 August 24 23:04 BST (UK)
Surely a true transcription is what the original says not what it should have said or what we would like it to say.

I regularly submit errors to FindMyPast but only where I can see that the transcript does not agree with the original.  I hate all the suggestions on Ancestry, they are almost as bad as their hints.





Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: BumbleB on Tuesday 20 August 24 07:48 BST (UK)
Exactly rosie99.
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: melba_schmelba on Tuesday 20 August 24 10:12 BST (UK)
AND if you find an error in transcription then it is easy to contact FindMyPast, who will acknowledge receipt AND invariably amend their mis-transcription.

Yes - but they will only amend if they agree that your reading matches the original, even if the detail in the original is wrong.

Ancestry's approach is much better.  They add your interpretation to the index.  They don't remove the first transcription, but show that there is an alternative transcription.  All the alternative transcriptions are in the index so, whichever one you follow, you will arrive at the original and can make your own judgement.

It's not always a matter of mistranscription.  Sometimes we KNOW through our research or personal knowledge that something has been written down wrong, and Ancestry is open to this.
The problem with Ancestry corrections, is that I am not sure they are searchable. Whereas if findympast decides you are correct that their transcription is wrong, they will completely replace the original data and it becomes searchable. But I am not 100% sure of that, I just know when I have submitted corrections and checked some time later, it still didn't appear under the corrected spelling. I think an exception might be corrections officially submitted i.e. I think I have seen corrections made with no user stated for London Archives content and possibly Dorset content where I assume the archives have been so annoyed at the transcription quality they actually corrected it all themselves :o ::).
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: Sloe Gin on Tuesday 20 August 24 13:45 BST (UK)
All that happens on Ancestry is that submitted corrections are added to the index, so yes, they are searchable, and nothing is removed.

If you click on the submitted name you are taken to the panel that gives details of the correction. You are of course free to disregard it if you do not think it is right.

Here's an example. I found one of my families under the wrong surname. I know it is the right people as everything checks out down to the address.  Eliza's husband was Edward Rudge. John Wood was her father (by then deceased).  She was not literate, and I guess someone helping to fill in the form asked her for "Father's name" meaning the father of the family, ie her husband.  So her husband was erroneously entered as John Wood, and the whole family were entered as Wood instead of Rudge.
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: Biggles50 on Tuesday 20 August 24 14:29 BST (UK)
FindMyPast has one MAJOR drawback, no DNA.

If you don’t do DNA then your tree could be a work of fiction in whole or in part.

If that is what you want then that is up to you.

I’ve given FindMyPast a good run but I simply do not like the Searching or the lack of effective Filters.

To each their own.

FindMyPast is IMO certainly not worth the huge annual subscription, even the cut price £140 that I got it for is well overpriced.
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 20 August 24 14:38 BST (UK)
Ancestry has 2 major drawbacks:
1. Irrelevant Hints
2. Badly researched trees

If you use Ancestry then your tree could be a work of fiction in whole or in part.

If that is what you want then that is up to you.
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: BumbleB on Tuesday 20 August 24 14:40 BST (UK)
I have to disagree with you, Biggles50.

OK - I don't do DNA and have no intention of ever doing so.  I have no intention of adding a tree either here or on any of the sites.  99.99% of my searches are England based.  I like the search facility, very easy to use.  AND new records are added EVERY week, plus there is the Newspaper search facility.  Also FindMyPast accept and acknowledge corrections to transcriptions.

 :-X :-X
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 20 August 24 14:45 BST (UK)
Ancestry has 2 major drawbacks:
1. Irrelevant Hints
2. Badly researched trees

If you use Ancestry then your tree could be a work of fiction in whole or in part.

If that is what you want then that is up to you.

In DNA research using Ancestry, their thrulines continue these fantasy trees  ::).   
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: Sloe Gin on Tuesday 20 August 24 15:50 BST (UK)
Ancestry has 2 major drawbacks:
1. Irrelevant Hints
2. Badly researched trees

If you use Ancestry then your tree could be a work of fiction in whole or in part.
If that is what you want then that is up to you.

If you don't upload a tree you won't get any hints. 
It is easy enough to ignore other people's trees. 
Title: Re: Findmypast Sub
Post by: brigidmac on Tuesday 20 August 24 19:23 BST (UK)
If you have a family history society near you you can use their facilities to access findmypast


+ Other records ..many libraries no longer allow access to sites like ancestry & FindMyPast