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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Fredsboy on Saturday 17 August 24 11:28 BST (UK)
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Morning gang, beautiful morning here in London. Assistance please decipher Victor's given occupation from 1851 Census: Victor Mady 8 Greenland Grove, St Pancras, Middlesex, England. I can see traveller and last word Grocery?
Thanks in advance
Paul
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Traveler of Oil & Grocery :-\
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I see it as Traveller (Oil & Grocery) - with the slashes // functioning as parentheses ().
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Thank you, sounds a strange combination. He later refers to himself as a jeweller
P
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1861 he is a Traveller/ Collector in various goods.
1841 he is a Waiter (also a Waiter on Daug Harriets bapt)
Cant see where he is a Jeweller??
Trish :)
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He later refers to himself as a jeweller
Where have you found him as a jeweller?
As Trish has observed, in 1861 his occupation was ‘traveller & collector in various goods’, and it seems that he died before the 1871 census was taken.
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Hi JenB , thanks for taking the time to help and show an interest
I didn't want to over complicate the original request but from various sources (below) I have the following information:
In 1834, at daughter Harriot's baptism, Father, Victor, is a shoemaker (his father and brother are variously cordwainers/shoemakers - their description)
In 1840 the record of his membership to The Hotel and Tavern Keepers Provident Institution. Mady, V. places him at "Evan's Grand Hotel Covent Garden" as a waiter)
In 1841 census he is still a waiter
In 1843, on son's birth certificate Henry Charles he is still a waiter
In 1861 census he is jeweller and collector (what ever that means)
He died in 1871 prior to the census but his death certificate states: jeweller(oil & colour made) - I think that is my misreading of Oil and Colour man (a dealer in the victualling trade, as i discovered) . It is further complicated as we changed the spelling of our name from Madit (in about 1837) to Mady. I have all this on the WAYE family tree (A***y) and really happy to accept any feedback if you dicovered anything additional or different, I am still very much a novice at this
thx again Paul
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In 1861 census he is jeweller and collector (what ever that means)
This isn't correct, as Trish and I have already pointed out in 1861 his occupation is 'traveller and collector in various goods' (unless I have the wrong person - I assume he's Victor Mady with daughter Rosalie at 28 Tavistock Place?)
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Oil and Colour man (a dealer in the victualling trade, as i discovered)
An oil and colour man sold oil for lamps, paints and also sometimes household hardware.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=823055.msg6861379#msg6861379 in particular reply #4
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Thx, just hadn't updated yet - done now
P
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In 1834, at daughter Harriot's baptism, Father, Victor, is a shoemaker (his father and brother are variously cordwainers/shoemakers - their description)
Did this child die?
Harriet Rebecca Mady was bapt 6 Jul. 1840, Father a Waiter***
Cant see any connection to John Mady 1783 Hampshire, Shoemaker.
Most Census he is Moody.
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Hi Trish,
like many other families at the time, we weren't very creative with names. Two, Harriets : Harriet Rebecca MADY passed JUNE 1912 • Yorkshire West Riding. Pretty full life (married name Jones and a brilliantly named daughter Dido Boadicea).
Harriet Rebecca Madit (pre name change) unfortunately passed aged 2 in 1835.
Both: father Victor Madit/Mady and mother Harriott Franciss
P
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Ok thanks nothing unusual for a child to be named after another that has died.
Cant see that bapt on line though so that is why I queried it :)
Signing out now late here in QZ, back tomorrow.
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Birth certificate info