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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Lodger on Friday 09 August 24 18:11 BST (UK)
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A few more pictures from the churchyard at Greenhead, Cambusnethan village.
These will probably be the last.
I contacted the owner of the site a couple of weeks ago, asking if the new post I made could be put at the top of the page next to the original one, I never even got an answer. So, unfortunately, this, the third post, will get lost as time goes on.
The new stones are -
JARDEN & ROBERTSON. (later Jardine).
McCULLOCH, LIVINGSTON & ROBERTS. (USA connection).
McCULLOCH & NEESON.
REESE & DALZIEL.
RUSSELL & MUIRHEAD.
SMITH & HADDOW.
WILSON & HYSLOP.
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Hi Lodger,
Thanks for the work you've done re: Cambusnethan churchyard.
I'd be really grateful if you could send me whatever info you have for the following (selected from the list first posted in 2011 on the topic " Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW":
1. CAIRNS, POLLOCK, McCREADIE & McKENDRICK
2. GARDNER, McDONALD & HADDOW
3. STEEL & HADDOW
4. WHITE, Robert 1854
many thanks,
Bella
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Hi Bella, here's the first of these stones, I'll post the rest tomorrow, it's almost 1.00 am now.
The inscription on this stone -
"Erected by Margaret Carens to the memory of her husband Thomas McCradie who died 25th October 1860 aged 62 years. The above Margaret Carens died 9th November 1883 aged 75 years. William Pollock died 27th November 1903 aged 21 years, beloved son of Jane McKendrick".
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This is the Gardner, McDonald and Haddow stone. As you can see, it isn't in the best of condition.
The inscription reads -
"Erected by James Gardner & Janet McDonald in memory of their children. Janet died 1st August 1858. Elizabeth died 15th December 1859. Also three died in infancy. (...) Sandy Haddow grandson died 1st March 1889 aged 13 months. The above James Gardner died 4th November 1893 aged 79 years. The above Janet McDonald died 25th June 1898 aged 62 years".
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The Steel and Haddow stone.
"1813 Erected by Thomas Steel and Margaret Haddow his spouse in memory of their three children and is the intended burial place of them and their family".
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The last one you asked for Bella, the White family.
If you find that you can connect to any of these 4 stones let me know and I'll try to find out more about them in the churchyard burial records.
The inscription for this stone is -
"1854 Erected by William White in memory of Robert White his brother who died ......".
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Thanks Lodger.
I think dates and other info rule out connections with my family for the first three headstones, however, you've helped me before with details about William White (c1828-1903) and it's possible that he has had this stone in last photo erected.
I've been unable to find details of William's siblings but one of his sons was named Robert so it could be that the child was named after the uncle.
William was born in Glasgow (probably Govan) but settled in Motherwell (Cemetery Keeper at Dalziel Cemetery) area around 1880 after a career in army so perhaps there were family connections within the vicinity.
His regiment, 2nd Dragoons Scots Greys, was in Nottingham in 1854 (William's son, Colin, is born there around that time) and then in Crimea. Would it have been possible for him to arrange a headstone without being in Scotland at the time? Or perhaps he had leave before Crimea?
It's a shame, but not surprising, that the headstone is worn but I appreciate the photo and will see whether I can find out whether William definitely had a brother and what happened to him.
thanks,
Bella
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Hi Lodger,
re: STEEL and HADDOW
I might come back to this one. Haddow is connected to an ancestor of mine from Lesmahagow and when I look back at Lesmahagow mortcloths, 1821 Census, there are many Steels so it's possible this couple came from that area.
I'm not clear to me from inscription whether the three children mentioned had pre-deceased the parents - it does say 'in memory of' but then states is the 'intended burial place...of their family'?? Would it be practice to buy and inscribe a headstone for living parents and children in advance of any deaths?
best wishes
bella
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Hi Bella,
The White stone may well have been ordered from a distance, who knows? That plot seems to have been taken over by a man named Joseph Clark. This Joseph was interred in the plot on 18th May 1906, he was aged 76 years. Also interred there are Elizabeth Armstrong aged 77 years (14th February 1893). Janet Clark was interred in 1900 aged 63 years and a child, Joseph Clark, aged 13 months in 1892.
The earliest paper records for this churchyard record the burial of Elizabeth Clark, aged 7 years, on 8th January 1861. Her parents were Joseph Clark and Mary White.
So Mary may have been the daughter of Robert White?
Just found an entry for Mary Clark, Cambusnethan (village) aged 38 years, married. Daughter of William White and Ruth ........ (no surname given). Interred 1st September 1871.
So she was William's daughter, does she fit with your William?
The Steel and Haddow stone.
All three children were deceased, plus the two named, before the parents. This was a common way of inscribing a stone at that time.
I should have mentioned that this stone is the older one of two stones on the same plot. The other is for Thomas Steel(e) who was the Registrar of Cambusnethan parish. I would have assumed he was the son of Thomas Steel and Margaret Haddow but, according to Scotlandspeople, this Thomas' mother's maiden surname was Watson. Perhaps his father married twice?
It is the same plot for the 2 stones, (see picture) and there were quite a few interments after 1880, the names are Steel, Wylie and Harrison. The last to go into that plot was Rachel Steele, interred 5th August 1966 aged 100 years.
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Thanks Lodger.
If Mary White/Clark was 38 when interred in 1871, that makes her birth year around 1833 which would make her nearer in age to the William White I'm researching (born around 1828) but his death certificate had Colin White as father, not William. I think I may be clutching at straws here hoping for a connection. White isn't exactly a rare name and Mary, Robert and William were popular names at the time.
I've had a quick search of Scotlands' People for Mary's death certificate in hope of more details of her parents but not found anything yet.
Thanks also for further details re Thomas Steel and Margaret Haddow.
cheers,
Bella
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I've had a quick search of Scotlands' People for Mary's death certificate in hope of more details of her parents but not found anything yet.
See screenshot.
If you searched for Clark you would not find her. Using wildcards - cl*rk* - will find variations on spelling of Clark.
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Hello
Regards the latest in the Steele saga. Rachel Steele was married to Thomas who was the registrar at Wishaw. He took over from his father also Thomas. Rachel was the eldest daughter of John Hamilton and his wife, Elizabeth Burt Nisbet and John was killed in the Blantyre Pit disaster of 1877. Elizabeth emigrated to USA with the remainder of her children and died in 1906.
Doolittle 72
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Hello
Regards the latest in the Steele saga. Rachel Steele was married to Thomas who was the registrar at Wishaw. He took over from his father also Thomas. Rachel was the eldest daughter of John Hamilton and his wife, Elizabeth Burt Nisbet and John was killed in the Blantyre Pit disaster of 1877. Elizabeth emigrated to USA with the remainder of her children and died in 1906.
Doolittle 72
Hi doolittle 72, the full transcription of that stone -
"Thomas Steele, registrar of Cambusnethan died 30th November 1894 aged 60 years. His wife Agnes Scobie died 13th December 1878 aged 40 years. Their son Thomas, registrar of Cambusnethan died 12th September 1936. His wife Rachel Murie Hamilton died 3rd August 1966 aged 100 years".
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Hello, Would you be able to send me the info re Reese/Dalziel please?
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Hi telephonist,
This is a two-sided stone, meaning there are inscriptions on each side with no way of knowing if the two families are related!
I do not have a picture of the stone, so it may not have survived the intervening years since I transcribed it back in 1983. However, this is the transcript -
"Erected by Thomas Reese and Jane Dalziel in memory of their son Thomas who died 27th May 1846 aged 14 months".
The other side has this inscription -
"Erected by Thomas and Ann Durber in memory of their son William who died 23rd June 1840 aged 14 months".
The cemetery plot book has the owners (in Victorian times) as Thomas Reese & Jane Dalziel.
The churchyard plot book has 2 entries for this plot (the book was only started about 1878) they are -
DAVID D. ANGUS, aged 3 years, interred 30th November 1881.
JAMES D. ANGUS, aged 2 years, interred 14th March 1888.
This next entry is from the gravedigger's day book and gives more information -
DAVID D. ANGUS, Wishaw, aged 3 weeks.
Parents - William A.F. Angus & Marion T. Dalziel.
Interred in the old churchyard on 21st July 1877.
This entry is from the new cemetery day book, a little discrepancy in the names but I think it's the same family.
THOMAS ANGUS, mineral weighman, Wishaw, aged 35 years, unmarried.
Parents -William John F. Angus & Marion F. Dalziel.
Interred in the cemetery, plot E1910 on 3rd October 1908.
Plot owned by William John Angus, steelworker, 110 Stenton Place, Wishaw.
2 more interments in that plot (E1910)
WILLIAM J.F. ANGUS, Wishaw, aged 1 year & 9 months.
Parents - William J.F. Angus & Bethia Shields.
Interred in E1910 on 4th August 1909.
WILLIAM J.F. ANGUS, Wishaw, aged 14 months.
Parents - William J.F. Angus & Bethia Shields.
Interred in E1910 on 14th June 1915.
This one is also in the new cemetery, not the churchyard,
WILLIAM ANGUS, joiner, Cleland, aged 72 years, married.
Parents - William Angus & Marion Hamilton.
interred in plot E634, 19th December 1908.
Finally, this one may or may not be connected to the above Angus family but, with all the names, it's worth looking at. Unfortunately, no first name(s) for his father.
JAMES ALFRED R. ANGUS, waggon greaser, Garriongill Junction, aged 13 years.
Parents - - - - - Angus & Mary Rankin.
Interred in the cemetery, plot D140 on 19th October 1888.
Hope this helps in some way.
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Wow, that was quick work, thankyou so much.
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You're welcome, I just hope you can use the information?
I checked my 1925 Wishaw Directory, there is no one named Reese or Reece living in the town but there are a few named Angus, particularly in the Cambusnethan village area.
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1851 census has Thomas (born England) and Jane (born Cambusnethan) living in Motherwell
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Baptism recorded under the name Rice
RICE
THOMAS
son of
THOMAS RICE/JANE DALZIELL
5/APRIL/1845
25/MAY/1845
HOLYTOWN FREE
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Well done Sancti, I've had another look at the Cam'nethan records and there are a few named Price and Rice but none that I can connect to the original post. Also checked the Globe in Motherwell, there are quite a few there too.