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Title: BAPTISM MARGIN ENTRY H of N help?
Post by: reereeree on Wednesday 07 August 24 14:59 BST (UK)
Hi there, I wonder if anyone has ever come across an entry of ‘H of N’ in the margin of a baptism record.

It appears many times on other baptisms but later is shortened to HN.

The record is from 1887 and the child it appears against died a few weeks after baptism from inanition.


Elizabeth Partington
Age   0
Birth Date   12 Aug 1887
Baptism Date   30 Aug 1887
Baptism Place   Everton, St Chad with Christ Church, Lancashire, England
Father   Samuel Partington
Mother   Elizabeth Partington


Any thoughts?

Thank you  :)
Title: Re: BAPTISM MARGIN ENTRY H of N help?
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 07 August 24 16:20 BST (UK)
Are you able to post a clip of the entry so people can see what you are looking at?
Title: Re: BAPTISM MARGIN ENTRY H of N help?
Post by: martin hooper on Wednesday 07 August 24 16:33 BST (UK)
You can see it on ancestry if you have a subscription.

Martin
Title: Re: BAPTISM MARGIN ENTRY H of N help?
Post by: reereeree on Wednesday 07 August 24 16:53 BST (UK)
Are you able to post a clip of the entry so people can see what you are looking at?

Thank you, picture added 😀
Title: Re: BAPTISM MARGIN ENTRY H of N help?
Post by: martin hooper on Wednesday 07 August 24 17:21 BST (UK)
Thinking outside the box here - but could it actually be H of I  - House of Industry.

Martin
Title: Re: BAPTISM MARGIN ENTRY H of N help?
Post by: arthurk on Wednesday 07 August 24 17:26 BST (UK)
Not a definitive answer, but might it be "Hour of Need" - where the child is dangerously ill, and the minister has perhaps been called out in the middle of the night?

Thinking outside the box here - but could it actually be H of I  - House of Industry.

There's a later entry (in another hand) where it's clearly H.N.:
Title: Re: BAPTISM MARGIN ENTRY H of N help?
Post by: martin hooper on Wednesday 07 August 24 17:31 BST (UK)
Hour of Need sounds very plausible. I thought that P for private covered that situation but maybe not.

Martin
Title: Re: BAPTISM MARGIN ENTRY H of N help?
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 07 August 24 17:52 BST (UK)
I'd agree with Hour of Need. 

FreeBMD show a death registration in September quarter 1887 - West Derby RD (which would cover Everton) for Elizabeth Partington, aged 0.

 :-\  :'(
Title: Re: BAPTISM MARGIN ENTRY H of N help?
Post by: reereeree on Wednesday 07 August 24 18:21 BST (UK)
I'd agree with Hour of Need. 

FreeBMD show a death registration in September quarter 1887 - West Derby RD (which would cover Everton) for Elizabeth Partington, aged 0.

 :-\  :'(

Hi, yes Elizabeth died on the 16th September 1887 at her home and was buried 3 days later in the Parochial Cemetery, Rice Lane, Walton, Liverpool. Thank you  :-\
Title: Re: BAPTISM MARGIN ENTRY H of N help?
Post by: arthurk on Wednesday 07 August 24 20:04 BST (UK)
Hour of Need sounds very plausible. I thought that P for private covered that situation but maybe not.

I thought so too, but maybe the 'P' ones weren't quite as ill. I looked for death registrations for some of the other 'H of N' ones and found a couple, but I didn't spend very long at it, or check for misspellings etc.
Title: Re: BAPTISM MARGIN ENTRY H of N help?
Post by: StevenG on Friday 09 August 24 12:50 BST (UK)
This annotation only occurs where Edward A. Downman performed the ceremony. I suspect that only he knew what it meant.
Title: Re: BAPTISM MARGIN ENTRY H of N help?
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 09 August 24 14:16 BST (UK)
This annotation only occurs where Edward A. Downman performed the ceremony. I suspect that only he knew what it meant.

I thought that when I was looking the other day but there are further entries in 1888 by Walter Felton including others that are just H.N