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Research in Other Countries => Immigrants & Emigrants - General => Topic started by: JK on Friday 02 August 24 13:31 BST (UK)
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Hoping one of you wonderful people can offer some assistance. I struggled for years finding where my grt, grt grandmother's sister had disappeared to. I eventually found a marriage certificate which confirmed she had married in 1862. I thought I had cracked it but then the trail again goes cold. The couple are Jane (nee Pearce) and Benjamin Bennett. She was born in 1839-40 Wigston, Leicestershire England and I believe he was from Devon born c1842. They married in 1862 in Islington. I know it is her as her father is correctly named as Henry Pearce, the marriage is in a familiar place and the marriage was signed by a known family member with an unusual name. This family has many connections with Canada although I have no prior proof that this couple emigrated. If anyone can spot them anytime after 1862 I would be so grateful, I cannot find them on the 1871 England census.
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Wondering if you first searched for Benjamin without Jane or remarried, as so many women died in childbirth back then. Plus the birth found in 1839 as Pears is highly likely as it matches the other sister's birth registration place as being Blaby, also under various spellings.
Query a bit cryptic, so I'll link to the search in Canada which has more information.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=853692.0
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Have you checked GRO online for Bennett births with a mmn Pearce then used any matches to find them in 1871/1881 to see if it's the right parents?
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Oh boy, I was really excited that I had been able to find Benjamin and Jane but alas they are not the correct couple. I am going to post what I found about this couple to help with crossing them off the list…I haven’t seen that anyone has posted about this family.
I had first found a burial in Tideswell Derbyshire for…
Ben Bennett of Tideswell
Age 1 year and 2 months
06 Nov 1864
Son of Benjamin and Jane Bennett
A search in the GRO website found this birth…
Ben Turner Bennett
MMName Walcot (not Pearce)
Bakewell RD Sep 1863 (Tideswell is in this district)
FreeBMD marriage for this couple…
Bakewell RD Dec 1855
Benjamin Turner Bennett
On the same page Jane Walcot
For those with access, the image is on ancestry and confirms the couple. Benjamin was a Stone Mason and names his father as Elias. The marriage took place in Tideswell.
So apparently not the Benjamin and Jane that JK is looking for.
The couple being searched for is very well hidden!
PB
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1862 marriage cert shows Benjamin as aged 20 & father as Giles Bennett - Rope maker
The 1851 has a Giles Bennett b 1805 South Molton Rope maker etc but no son Benjamin in either 1841 or 1842
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Thanks for looking folks. They really are tricky. I thought when I found the marriage it would all fall into place but sadly it just made it more frustrating. I have UK Ancestry membership but not International hence turning to Rootschat. I'll keep searching... I really appreciate all the help.
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1862 marriage cert shows Benjamin as aged 20 & father as Giles Bennett - Rope maker
The 1851 has a Giles Bennett b 1805 South Molton Rope maker etc but no son Benjamin in either 1841 or 1842
I have Giles Bennett and his family on the 1841 census with his wife Harriet (nee Baker) and then on the 1851 where she is widowed. Giles died in 1849 (death record). Benjamin is 9 on the 1851 census and not with his mother in 1861. I did find a Benjamin Bennett as a visitor on the 1861 in Portland but it's a bit inconclusive. I then have him on his marriage certificate in 1862 and after that he is pretty elusive.
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1862 marriage cert shows Benjamin as aged 20 & father as Giles Bennett - Rope maker
The 1851 has a Giles Bennett b 1805 South Molton Rope maker etc but no son Benjamin in either 1841 or 1842
This Giles Bennett was married to Sarah Godsland/Gosland 16 Oct 1825 at South Molton
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So there were 2 Giles Bennett's in Devon - both ropemakers
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Yes it seems so ::)
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I am wondering whether Giles Bennett was actually Benjamins grandfather and not his father. Was Benjamin the illegitimate child of one the daughters. When did Giles and Harriet marry.
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The marriage was 25th December 1817 in Cullompton. They would both have been very young I think. The census ages are a bit all over the place, which of course isn't uncommon. In 1841 Giles is down as 40 and Harriet as 35 but then that doesn't work for the marriage date however in 1851 she is 50 which does!
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To further confuse the issue, according to Giles death certificate he was 55 in 1849. He died of Phthisis (tuberculosis). That puts his birth anywhere between 1794 and 1801/2...
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Ages were supposed to be rounded down in the 1841 census so Harriet could have been as old as 39 which is a closer match to her age in the 1851 census.
Giles could have been as old as 44. Not quite as close a match to the age given at his death. Two possible reasons for this come to mind. Giles could be trying to appear younger on the census given his wife’s age or the informant didn’t know his age when registering his death.
PB
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Have you eliminated this birth
BENNETT, BENJAMIN mmn BAKER
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in TIVERTON AND DULVERTON Volume 10 Page 278
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Yes I agree with and had that birth entry for Benjamin. I also agree that the informant of Giles death probably didn't know his actual age as it isn't Harriet or anyone I have identified. Thanks
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Presumably you have that certificate and it confirms that his father was Giles
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I don't as it's actually Benjamin's wife Jane Pearce I am most interested in. I was originally just trying to find out where Jane and Benjamin disappear off to after their marriage. The Bennett research is mostly a diversion although I was trying to establish who Benjamin's family were ;D