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Title: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: mirl on Friday 02 August 24 03:06 BST (UK)
Hi All,

Fanny Farey/Fairey had her birth registered 12/1837 at St Neots being the daughter of William Farey and Eliza Parkins.  She is with her paternal Farey grandparents in Eynesbury for the 1841 Census.

She had a younger brother George Farey registered 12/1839 St Neots and he is with his parents, also in Eynesbury, for the 1841 Census.

The father William Farey dies 3/1841 at St Neots and the mother Eliza Farey dies 3/1845 also at St Neots.  This leaves the 8yo Fanny and 6yo George as orphans.

For the 1851 Census Fanny is with a paternal aunt Elizabeth Irons (nee Farey) in St Neots while George using a supposed middle name of Charles is at the Eaton Socon Workhouse.  He eventually becomes a shoe maker, gets married, has children and lives in Kettering.

Fanny marries Samuel Staughton in 3/1853 at St Neots seemingly at the age of 15y 9m with Samuel being just about 21.  I can't find either of these on the 1861 census.

I found references to a couple of newspaper articles, which I can't download until I get to the library next week, that indicate Fanny Staughton was being transferred to or from Eaton Socon and St Mary Islington as a pauper lunatic.  I am in the same position with the 15 entries in 1857 for Workhouse admissions in Islington.  Hereafter I lose all trace of her. 

When did she die; where did she die?  You would assume either near Eaton Socon or near Islington at a time between 1856 and 1865.

Samuel Staughton marries again 12/1865 at St Neots to Sarah Annie Lee and they have several children and are living in Kimbolton for the 1871 census.  This marriage is 7+ years after Fanny was probably declared insane so is that when you could re-marry without a death or divorce?  If so then did Fanny die much later?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Colin
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 02 August 24 03:19 BST (UK)
Hopefully this is the newspaper report 1856

Kay
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: mirl on Friday 02 August 24 03:23 BST (UK)
Yes, that was one of them.  The other was in the Cambridge Independent of the same date but i assume it would have the same facts.

Thank you for this.
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 02 August 24 03:34 BST (UK)
The Cambridge report is shorter - Tried looking for Fanny in 1861 using just her intials
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 02 August 24 04:03 BST (UK)
This transcription on Anc links to an image actually links to the admission of Fanny Staughton age 32 to Cotney Hatch Asylum

Fanny Staughton
Record Type    Admission
Admission Date    11 Mar 1857
Admission Place    Islington, London, London, England
Admission Poor Law Union    Islington
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 02 August 24 04:17 BST (UK)
I wonder if this could be Fanny at the Middlesex County Lunatic Asylum Colney Hatch in 1861?
F S age 32 Patient b Huntingdonshire
   
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: mirl on Friday 02 August 24 04:32 BST (UK)
Ah, Colney Hatch, I have managed to get patient records from there before.

Her age is off quite a bit as she should only be about 20 on admission and 23 for 1861.

Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 02 August 24 04:47 BST (UK)
Staughton is such an unusual surname maybe an error was made re her age - I searched on Fanny Staughton with no age and her birth date varies on admission records from 1825 and 1832.   
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 02 August 24 05:34 BST (UK)
Possibly unrelated but the Fanny Staughton age 83 who died in 1913 in Watford Reg District was a patient of the Leavesden Ayslum Watford and listed as from the parish of Islington - based on death cert
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: mirl on Friday 02 August 24 06:21 BST (UK)
Well that sounds like the same person to me; her age fits in the range identified on the admissions in Islington.  Might have to look at census information for 1901 and 1911 perhaps to get a better idea.

I also believe there are two Samuel Staughton's. 

One is the son of Stephen & Elizabeth born 1828 St Mary Whitechapel and they lived in Church Place & Cross Street East Islington for some time (even though Stephen himself is from Eynesbury) thus giving the connection Islington and her removal there. 

The other was born 1832 in Eynesbury and I think is the one that married Sarah Annie Lee in 1865 as he is a 19yo shoemaker in 1851 and a 39yo shoemaker in 1871.

I think it is the first one who is Fanny's husband and I need to find him going forward too.
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 02 August 24 06:33 BST (UK)
I think this is the Fanny Staughton who died in 1913

1911 - Metropolitan District Imbecile Asylum Leavesden Kings Langley Herts
Fanny Slaughton
Age    81
Relationship to head    Patient
Marital status    Married
Infirmity as transcribed    Lunatic 25 4
No birthplace listed
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: mirl on Friday 02 August 24 07:45 BST (UK)
I finally found that 1911 entry.

The notation "Lunatic 25" is made by the enumerator I think it means she has been a lunatic since the age of 25, which would match the timing of the newspaper articles in 1856 and a birth year of 1830/1.

I am now wondering if this is a different and older Fanny Farey than the one I seek born 1837.
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 02 August 24 08:29 BST (UK)
I can't see the marriage cert to Samuel online sadly
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: Gillg on Friday 02 August 24 11:37 BST (UK)
As a descendant of Farey/Faireys from Huntingdonshire it's interesting for me to see the profession "shoemaker" for George, as shoemaker (or cordwainer) was a traditional profession for my male Fairey members for several generations.  Although these Farey/Faireys lived very close to my ancestors, who came from Easton and Ellington,  I cannot see any of those mentioned in my tree. 
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: jonwarrn on Friday 02 August 24 14:00 BST (UK)
UK, Lunacy Patients Admission Registers on ancestry has
Fanny Staughton admitted to Bedford asylum, 7 May 1856
Discharged 10 March 1857, "Recovered" ???

Fanny Staughton admitted 10 March 1857 to Colney Hatch (transcribed Stangton on ancestry)
Discharged 22 June 1877, Relieved

Fanny Staughton admitted 22 June 1877 to Banstead (Stauglton on ancestry)
Discharged - in pencil it may say 4 Sep, then 81, or is the 1 actually a mark in the Relieved column?

Perhaps then after Banstead she was moved to Leavesden, which is not in these records
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: jonwarrn on Friday 02 August 24 14:14 BST (UK)
I am in the same position with the 15 entries in 1857 for Workhouse admissions in Islington.

I don't think there are workhouse entries. Hasn't Fanny just gone from one asylum to another?

What you need on ancestry is to browse
London, England, Selected Poor Law Removal and Settlement Records, 1698-1922
Select
Islington / Orders of Removal / Orders of Removal to Islington, 1856
Image 328
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2651/images/32966_612057_2552-00327

Or if searching at the library, try changing the url to ancestry library (i.e. www.ancestrylibraryedition.co.uk)

Lots of images with removal documents to enjoy!
Starts with a rough exam/chat with her husband
Says he married Fanny Fairey about 5 years ago at the Old Meeting House St Neots

See also
London, England, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1738-1926
Select
Islington / Islington / Miscellaneous / Registers of Examination of Paupers, Passed to Parish, 1852-1857
Image 149
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/32966_606246_1800-00148
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: jonwarrn on Friday 02 August 24 14:21 BST (UK)
I also believe there are two Samuel Staughton's. 

One is the son of Stephen & Elizabeth born 1828 St Mary Whitechapel and they lived in Church Place & Cross Street East Islington for some time

That's the one.
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: jonwarrn on Friday 02 August 24 14:46 BST (UK)
A 10 year old Fanny Fairey in St Neots in 1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77L-2HG
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 02 August 24 15:20 BST (UK)
A 10 year old Fanny Fairey in St Neots in 1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77L-2HG

Yes - I have been looking at that Fanny but can't see the family post 1841 - possible marriage of the mother Charlotte in 1st 1844 St Neots I think to Charles Warner
Title: Re: Fanny Staughton nee Farey - when did she die?
Post by: mirl on Saturday 03 August 24 06:06 BST (UK)
Thanks to all those who have looked at this since I was on yesterday.

The 10yo Fanny Fairy in St Neots with mother Charlotte I beleive her father to be Joseph as there is a marriage in St Neots in 1828 of Joseph Fairey & Charlotte Townshend of Eaton Socon.  I think this is the Fanny Fairey that married Samuel Staughton.

I am going to hang on to this discussion as there is quite a chance that Joseph fits into my Farey line somewhere.

So if I back track then, this isn't the Fanny Fairey I am looking for.  The one I want was born late in 1837 and was last seen with her paternal aunt Elizabeth Irons (nee Farey) in 1851.