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Title: Name on 1851 Census
Post by: Sessylt on Thursday 25 July 24 22:57 BST (UK)
Relevant link (https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/16695378:8860)

I am completely unable to read this. From the handwriting on the rest of the page it seems to me to read Samuel again. Or Lemuel? Was it a case of dittography?

I would appreciate any help on this.

Kind regards,
Sessylt

Title: Re: Name on 1851 Census
Post by: shanreagh on Friday 26 July 24 22:39 BST (UK)
The link goes to the Anc$stry site.  Many of us will not be able to read the link for further clues becasue of this. Do you have a reference so we can access it through other means please?   Eg is it the English or US Census?

To me it looks like Samuel.  There is a tip on this board to read difficult writing upside down.  Perhaps you could try doing that? I have done this in the past and it is a good tip.  It apparently disentangles the brain from seeing something that may not be there or feeling that it cannot see any name it at all   
Title: Re: Name on 1851 Census
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 26 July 24 22:52 BST (UK)
Household schedule number   25
Piece   2175
Folio   440
Page number   10


It is a step-daughter.

The name above is Samuel and the first letter isn’t the same.
J? Although other J s on the page are more open.

Something like Jemimah?
Title: Re: Name on 1851 Census
Post by: shanreagh on Friday 26 July 24 23:26 BST (UK)
Thanks mckha489.

Clearly it makes a difference if the person is female and not male  ;)  A bigger snip is always useful too.

Edited to add: 

What do the refs apply to please?  I am floundering around on Family Search looking for this census and cannot see where you'd use the ref numbers you've given?
Title: Re: Name on 1851 Census
Post by: bbart on Saturday 27 July 24 06:16 BST (UK)
Transcription:  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGK1-1HT

A bigger chunk to squint at, 4th name from the top:
Title: Re: Name on 1851 Census
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 27 July 24 06:48 BST (UK)
If female could she be Jemima with the h at the end in error??

Kay
Title: Re: Name on 1851 Census
Post by: orkrad on Sunday 28 July 24 00:53 BST (UK)
 How about Jeremiah Roberts ? Regards Orkrad
Title: Re: Name on 1851 Census
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 28 July 24 01:03 BST (UK)
Quote from: orkrad on Sunday 28 July 24 00:53 BST (UK)
How about Jeremiah Roberts ? Regards Orkrad

It is a girl. Is Jeremiah ever a girl's name?
Title: Re: Name on 1851 Census
Post by: J.J. on Monday 12 August 24 21:23 BST (UK)
   Looking at the versions of J & S- capital S in Samuel (Lemuel) looks more like an L which are also all over the place... but middle looks like the m in Samuel - so agree it looks to be Jemiuh (Jeniah?) - If it wasn't a Samuel just before her entry I might have guessed Semiuh?  With some extra strokes in many "r" & some open topped "a" one might have to put this one down to bad guesses, ears & penmanship.
 
  Adding Don't see any of this bunch anywhere in 1861, but perhaps they were in transit, as Samuel appears to have 2 more half-brothers in 1871 Cleator Moor, Cumberland.
 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRM9-2JC

I see that you'd posted elsewhere, with a discussion re: this family / 1851 census
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=563403.0
This post has her marrying John Rowe as Ann Jane
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731575.msg5772450#msg5772450