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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: JustinVieira on Wednesday 24 July 24 15:56 BST (UK)
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hi all I have some pictures I wanted to ask some advise on dating
Could I also ask for an opinion - If photographs were taken at a photographic studio for example in Terrence street in Kingston - Is it incorrect to assume the individuals most likely lived in the area/street?
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Hi Justin,
I had to remove one photo as it was mostly white empty space, we have to pay money to host the images please can you remove any empty white space from images as it wasted money.
Regards
Sarah
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From the sleeves on the lady's jacket, it looks like mid-1890s to me .Also, It could well be a marriage photo as her ring is obvious.
The photo studio is not necessarily in the same area as their residence.
Gadget
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100% will crop it now
Hi Justin,
I had to remove one photo as it was mostly white empty space, we have to pay money to host the images please can you remove any empty white space from images as it wasted money.
Regards
Sarah
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No white around photo - looking to see if this picture would fit in to the time period that for this to be the person I think it is
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From the sleeves on the lady's jacket, it looks like mid-1890s to me .Also, It could well be a marriage photo as her ring is obvious.
The photo studio is not necessarily in the same area as their residence.
Gadget
I did not even notice the ring thank you for pointing that out to me
Oh dam that is a shame as I have 14 photos unlabelled but in the same area that my one set of family members lived in as per the england census records
Thank you for the help
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Agree 1st. is mid-late 1890's.
The 2nd. looks earlier as the cardstock design doesn't fit an 1890's date.
If you have it can we see the back?
Could be as early as 1870's.
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Chas Dickinson photographer was working in Port Elizabeth about 1882 -1887.
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Agree 1st. is mid-late 1890's.
The 2nd. looks earlier as the cardstock design doesn't fit an 1890's date.
If you have it can we see the back?
Could be as early as 1870's.
Unfortunately, the backs are blank
The 2nd photo - how old would you estimate this man to be - late 60s or early 70s ?
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Chas Dickinson photographer was working in Port Elizabeth about 1882 -1887.
If this is the time period The person I think it could be was born in 1835 so he would be around 60s or so and he died in 1916 at 84 years of age. So that would most likely fit.
However I am unsure now if Jim is saying the card design does not fit 1890's
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OK. My best estimate is mid-late 1870's but could be into the early 80's
depending on how up to date he dressed.
He looks 65-70 to me.
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OK. My best estimate is mid-late 1870's but could be into the early 80's
depending on how up to date he dressed.
He looks 65-70 to me.
Thanks Jim
So then its unlikely to be the man I think it is unless he aged really badly.
But from other photos I have noticed the people did age quite badly at the time
Not sure if I am just pulling at straws to try and make it fit hahaha :P ;D
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Whether this is 1870's or 80's & he's aged badly he still
isn't someone born in the 1830's.
Beware of confirmation bias says he.
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Whether this is 1870's or 80's & he's aged badly he still
isn't someone born in the 1830's.
Beware of confirmation bias says he.
I agree :) I definitely do not think its him as well. I was just hopeful
So he would have been born in the 1820's or so?
Thank you so much for the help and assistance
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I would suggest a birth of around 1810-20.
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I would suggest a birth of around 1810-20.
Thank you so much Jim
I appreciate all the help
It helps to have a good idea of the time period to crack whose who
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The old man looks well dressed, but must be 80 or well into his 70's.
If the photo was taken in South Africa, he may have died there. Were there lots of family ancestors in Port Elizabeth?
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The old man looks well dressed, but must be 80 or well into his 70's.
If the photo was taken in South Africa, he may have died there. Were there lots of family ancestors in Port Elizabeth?
Hi there
Yes I have a number of relatives/ ancestors from PE.
I have a number of photos from the same photo studio of which 4 of them are labelled and they are exactly the same shape and design as this image. So I have a feeling it is the father but the father was born in the 1830's so it is just not fitting. So it is most likely someone else I guess
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Do any of the others of that studio have a design on the back.
Believe it or not they help date a photo.
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His hair is quite thick, and receding rather than balding, and it's only his beard that's significantly white or grey. His face does look rather lined and craggy, but that could be a result of working outdoors. On balance, I think he's more likely to be around 50-60 than 70-80.
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The first photo, of the woman, aren't those numbers on her collar?
Member of something like the Salvation Army?
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Hi, just a question. Do you know who the first photograph is. I would say the man could possibly be 60 which would put him born in the 1830’s. With the second photo being his father?
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The first photo, of the woman, aren't those numbers on her collar?
Member of something like the Salvation Army?
It doesn't really look like Salvation Army headgear.... and their collar insignia is usually just "S.A.", I think. What you're seeing might be just decoration on the collar, or a necklace that's half in, half out.
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Do any of the others of that studio have a design on the back.
Believe it or not they help date a photo.
Unfortunately, all the backs are blank. It is quite strange.
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His hair is quite thick, and receding rather than balding, and it's only his beard that's significantly white or grey. His face does look rather lined and craggy, but that could be a result of working outdoors. On balance, I think he's more likely to be around 50-60 than 70-80.
He was a railway employee according to the death certificate I have provided it is the person I think it is.
However, not sure if that means he worked outside or inside
The mystery of exploring family continues
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Hi, just a question. Do you know who the first photograph is. I would say the man could possibly be 60 which would put him born in the 1830’s. With the second photo being his father?
I am unsure completely who the individuals are in the first photo.
It was in my great-great grandfather's album.
The 2 photos are in different albums and thus suspect they are from two different sides of the tree
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He was a railway employee according to the death certificate I have provided it is the person I think it is.
However, not sure if that means he worked outside or inside
That would depend on what kind of railway employee he was. Clerk, station master etc - mostly inside. Track maintenance - outside. Porter - some of each. Engine driver/other footplate worker - more or less outside and exposed to heat and fumes etc, which wouldn't do a lot for a chap's complexion.
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He was a railway employee according to the death certificate I have provided it is the person I think it is.
However, not sure if that means he worked outside or inside
That would depend on what kind of railway employee he was. Clerk, station master etc - mostly inside. Track maintenance - outside. Porter - some of each. Engine driver/other footplate worker - more or less outside and exposed to heat and fumes etc, which wouldn't do a lot for a chap's complexion.
I wonder how I could find out? Any ideas
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This may be of some help....
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/1728/
Railway Employee Records.
Carol
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This may be of some help....
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/1728/
Railway Employee Records.
Carol
Thanks Carol
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Hi, I would start by trying to identify the couple. Without having a better idea of dates it is a bit hard.
Are both albums from your g g grandfather?
So they would be either his or his parents.
The first thing is to try to work out where the albums came from.
The sequence of pictures in an album can be important. Either date or significance order.
The couple look very comfortably off, he has a large signet ring and a very substantial watch chain, and looks very comfortable with that cigar!
Does this fit with anyone in your family?
Bear in mind that people sent each other photographs of significant family events to the other side of the world.
Duplicate photos in Scotland and Australia or Canada depending on the family.
Hopefully this will give you some pointers.
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Hi, I would start by trying to identify the couple. Without having a better idea of dates it is a bit hard.
Are both albums from your g g grandfather?
So they would be either his or his parents.
The first thing is to try to work out where the albums came from.
The sequence of pictures in an album can be important. Either date or significance order.
The couple look very comfortably off, he has a large signet ring and a very substantial watch chain, and looks very comfortable with that cigar!
Does this fit with anyone in your family?
Bear in mind that people sent each other photographs of significant family events to the other side of the world.
Duplicate photos in Scotland and Australia or Canada depending on the family.
Hopefully this will give you some pointers.
Thank you for this help
I will sit and look at the order of the pictures in the album
I appreciate the advise
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Hi, just a question. Do you know who the first photograph is. I would say the man could possibly be 60 which would put him born in the 1830’s. With the second photo being his father?
I am unsure completely who the individuals are in the first photo.
It was in my great-great grandfather's album.
The 2 photos are in different albums and thus suspect they are from two different sides of the tree
Perhaps it’s just a result of the studio lighting, but…
Looking at the man’s hand, the hand appears fairly tanned; the nailbed appears to be quite light compared to the fingers.
His forehead appears to be lighter than the rest of his face (and ear) and quite a bit lighter than his hand, but again, maybe it’s just the lighting, or my eyes. Did he wear a hat when working (but didn’t wear gloves)? :-\