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Title: James Reed 1868-1943, Gateshead
Post by: Bitzer1 on Monday 15 July 24 01:18 BST (UK)
I would appreciate any help in tracing James Reed (1868-1943), the son of Thomas Fenwick Reed (1830-1906) and Margaret (Margaretta) Jane Harbottle (1829-1877).  I have not found him in the 1891 and 1901 censuses.  In the 1911 census, he is listed in Gateshead with a wife Jane Ann (Longstaff), born 1878, and children Sidney age 13, Eveline (Evelyn) age 7, Arnold age 2, and Ruth Winifred 4 months. 

I have not found a marriage record for the couple or a birth registration for Sidney under Reed or Longstaff.  Sidney, born 16 June 1897, and Arnold are listed with their widowed father James in Gateshead in the 1939 England and Wales Register.  His wife/partner seems to have died in Gateshead in 1930 listed as Jane Ann Reed.  The 1901 census has Jane Ann living with her siblings and father Matthew Longstaff (1847-1907) in Gateshead.  With them is a visitor Sidney Longstaff, age 3, who might be the illegitimate son of Jane and James Reed.           
Title: Re: James Reed 1868-1943, Gateshead
Post by: Comberton on Monday 15 July 24 02:33 BST (UK)
1891
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WNR7-RN2
Title: Re: James Reed 1868-1943, Gateshead
Post by: Bitzer1 on Monday 15 July 24 12:51 BST (UK)
Many thanks.  Oddly, I cannot find this on Ancestry, which, unless I have missed it, only seems to have enumeration districts 1-6 for South Shields in the 1891 England Census.
Title: Re: James Reed 1868-1943, Gateshead
Post by: Dundee on Monday 15 July 24 13:23 BST (UK)
They have missed out page 7 altogether, it goes from page 6 to page 8.  Put the reference in - Piece: 4166  Folio: 41 Page: 6  and when you go to the next page it is 8, not 7.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: James Reed 1868-1943, Gateshead
Post by: Ashtone on Monday 15 July 24 13:50 BST (UK)
1901 census - Staith Terrace, Winlaton, Durham

Sydney Longstaff (visitor, age 3) in the household of Matthew and Margaret Longstaff.

Always a chance that James isn't the father.

Given that James hasn't been located yet in 1901 could he be in South Africa (Boer War)?
There's an 1898 service record for a James Reed (age 28, birthplace Jarrow), but he's a labourer and signs with his mark. So, probably not your James.
Title: Re: James Reed 1868-1943, Gateshead
Post by: Bitzer1 on Monday 15 July 24 14:51 BST (UK)
Thanks Debra.  This confirms the street.  I am surprised that Ancestry missed the page out.  A search on Find My Past has it, but without a subscription I cannot know for sure. 
Title: Re: James Reed 1868-1943, Gateshead
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 15 July 24 15:05 BST (UK)
FindMyPast - 1891 - 43 Croft Terrace, Jarrow.

James Hall with wife, Mary Alice and son James Basil.  Plus Isabella Harbottle, sister-in-law and James Reed, nephew, aged 22 (Ship Draughtsman).


Title: Re: James Reed 1868-1943, Gateshead
Post by: Bitzer1 on Monday 15 July 24 19:08 BST (UK)
Thanks BumbleB.  The Halls were still there in the 1901 England Census but not James Reed.
Title: Re: James Reed 1868-1943, Gateshead
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 15 July 24 20:11 BST (UK)
1901 census - Staith Terrace, Winlaton, Durham

Sydney Longstaff (visitor, age 3) in the household of Matthew and Margaret Longstaff.

Always a chance that James isn't the father.

Given that James hasn't been located yet in 1901 could he be in South Africa (Boer War)?
There's an 1898 service record for a James Reed (age 28, birthplace Jarrow), but he's a labourer and signs with his mark. So, probably not your James.

Could his birth be registered as William Longstaff  ???

LONGSTAFF, WILLIAM       - 
GRO Reference: 1897  S Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS  Volume 10A  Page 776

Sidney Reed Age 18
Document Date   1916
Residence Place   86 Lobley Hill Rd, Gateshead
Military Date   1916
Number of Images   12
Father James Reed (same address) - writing is very faint
UK, British Army World War I Service Records, 1914-1920
Title: Re: James Reed 1868-1943, Gateshead
Post by: jonwarrn on Monday 15 July 24 21:33 BST (UK)
His wife/partner seems to have died in Gateshead in 1930 listed as Jane Ann Reed.         

Burial at Saltwell Cemetery, 9 August 1930
Jane A Reed, wife of James, age 52, death occurred 86 Lobley Hill Road
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3VC-Z7X2

Buried 23 Nov 1943, same grave
James Reed, Draughtsman, age 75, 86 Lobley Hill Road
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3VC-ZWDQ

Graves register for 6 / 6178
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3VC-C946-R

Four more burials, next was Ruth (Parker)
Last one Joyce Ethel Reed, age 67, on 15 January 1996 (bottom of page)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3VC-ZQP

Lot of classified ads in the Newcastle Evening Chronicle in the 1930s emanating from 86 Lobley Hill Road Gateshead
Title: Re: James Reed 1868-1943, Gateshead
Post by: Bitzer1 on Tuesday 16 July 24 16:03 BST (UK)
Many thanks for the replies.

Ladyhawk, re: William Longstaff.  I had seen this and agree it's certainly a possibility.

jonw65, the burials of James Reed and the other family members fit the information I have, but I had not seen the burial registers before.  It was interesting to see that they share a burial place.