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Grandfathers birth certificate shows his father as Benjamin James Gregory (railway signalman) and his mother as Emily Gregory (formally Townsend). Censuses from 1871 to 1891 show Henry D Townsend having a daughter Emily Townsend (born approx 1870). BMD shows that Benjamin James Gregory born 1870 and married Emily Townsend 1892 (West Bromwich Dec 6b 1235). I have Emily’s birth certificate showing her birth on the 28/10/1869 and father is Henry Daniel Townsend. I sent for that marriage certificate. All of Benjamin James’s details are correct. Emily’s name and age are correct but her father is named as George (a bricklayer). I cannot find any George Townsend living in Warwickshire or Staffordshire but there is a Henry Daniel Townsend. On Ancestry, all the trees have Emily as the daughter of Henry Daniel and Benjamin James as her husband. I must have either the wrong birth certificate for Emily or the name of her father is wrong on the marriage certificate. Can anyone help unravel the mystery?
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What is Emily’s address at the marriage?
Who are the witnesses?
Added…Henry is never a Bricklayer that I can see
Added further…what is place of birth on the birth cert you have?
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1921 place of birth is Sparkbrook b c 1873
There is this birth
TOWNSEND, EMILY ASBURY
GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in KINGS NORTON Volume 06C Page 442
Thomas George Townsend married Lucy ASTBURY
He’s an engine fitter
But later censuses he is a labourer.
1881 they have Emily born Sparkbrook and Thomas George is just George.
If he was labouring for a bricklayer, then she might have ‘elevated’ his occupation
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Is this the correct family?
1911 Emily
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW7T-8ZT
1911 Benjamin * image says Benj.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW71-62L
1901
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSQ1-GWJ
1921 census shows Emily age 48 years 2 months born Sparkbrook, Warwickshire.
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This is the 1881 census referenced earlier
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27F-14J3
In 1871 among others is a daughter Rebecca.
She married Charles Brookes
And in 1901 George is with them and is a builders labourer.
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Emily TOWNSEND married at Edgbaston in 1895 to Edwin WESTON. Her father Henry TOWNSEND a groom, and witness was Henry Daniel TOWNSEND.
Debra :)
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This is the 1881 census referenced earlier
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27F-14J3
In 1871 among others is a daughter Rebecca.
She married Charles Brookes
And in 1901 George is with them and is a builders labourer.
1881 census there’s a daughter named Clara
Clara Townsend age 23 father George occ bricklayer
Marriage 14 Aug 1898 Sparkbrook, Christ Church
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Thank you all for the information. I now think that I have the wrong birth certificate for Emily townsend. All the information I have from her marriage to Benjamin James is correct. I found her in 1911 in the hospital census which led me to find the child that had died. I will have to start again on the Townsend branch of the family. Thank you all once again.
regards Allan