RootsChat.Com
England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: PaulJC on Wednesday 10 July 24 14:35 BST (UK)
-
I am trying to find out as much as I can on John Walter Longstaffe.
I know that he served in India before and during the First World War with some records showing him as Army of India (or reserve army of officers in India). He was commissioned in 1917 and ended up a captain.
The reason that I have posted in the Durham thread is that a medal card shows his address in the middle 1920's as 7 Leyboune Terrace, Stockton on Tees.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks.
-
Per this public tree on Ancestry he was born in Stockton on Tees:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/33936427/person/18559220114/facts
-
John Walter Longstaffe married, by license, Elizabeth Alice Menage, 20th July 1921, Marylebone
He gives his Rank or Profession as Captain Indian Army Reserve Officer at 4 Kempsford? Gardens?, Earls Court.
His father John William Longstaffe, draper
Her father Ernest Menage (deceased), jewellery
-
probate
LONGSTAFFE John Walter of 146 Queens Road Norwich died 2 August 1963 Administration Norwich 11 September to Elizabeth Alice Longstaffe widow. Effects £998 17s.
-
At A******y A medal card refers to an application for a clasp relating to service in Iraq and Kurdistan dated 15/9/23 and has an address: The Alders, Old Lakenham, Norwich
-
1911
at 3 Gt Titchfield Street, St Marylebone, London.
John Walter Longstaffe, head, 33, single, manager (grocer and wine merchant) b Stockton-on-Tees
Other occupants are a housekeeper and two grocer's assistants
The signature looks very much like that on the wedding record.
-
A wanted ad in the Marylebone Mercury, 3/8/1901 refers to Shepard & Co., grocers, 3, Great Titchfield Street, Oxford Circus.
-
Many thanks for the new information. This is a great help and gives me some direction.
I believe that to see the public tree on Ancestry I would need a subscription?
Paul
-
more on the 1911 address – Lloyd George Valuation survey dated 1910
3 Great Titchfield Street
description: house
occupier: A E Shepherd
owner: Lord Howard de Walden
described as:
ground floor – grocers shop
1st 2nd and 3rd floors – 2 rooms each
basement divided into rooms, dark.
-
The tree has a son Guy Menage Longstaffe, born 1917.
I’m not sure but I think a free Ancestry membership allows you to look at trees, although you won’t be able to follow all the details.
-
The family are in the 1939 register at 13 Essex Street, Norwich. JWL is a commercial traveller, can't post further details unfortunately.
-
The tree has a son Guy Menage Longstaffe, born 1917.
I’m not sure but I think a free Ancestry membership allows you to look at trees, although you won’t be able to follow all the details.
That has to be his son but isnt that 4 years before his marriage to Elizabeth?
-
Yes, indeed!
CWGC Debt of Honour
G M Longstaffe b 1917 died 21/11/1943, Captain, 3 Bn., 8th Punjab Regiment, burried Sangro River War Cemetery, Italy. Son of Capt. John W. Longstaffe, MBE, and E A Longstaffe of Norwich.
Added: the mouth of the Sangro River, on the Adriatic coast of Italy, formed the eastern end of the German fortifications known as the Gustav Line. The Eighth Army finally crossed the river on November 25th 1943.
-
Yes, indeed!
CWGC Debt of Honour
G M Longstaffe b 1917 died 21/11/1943, Captain, 3 Bn., 8th Punjab Regiment, burried Sangro River War Cemetery, Italy. Son of Capt. John W. Longstaffe, MBE, and E A Longstaffe of Norwich.
Guy Menage -
GRO Reference: 1917 D Quarter in SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 11
Sandra
-
Thanks again.
Yes. four years before they were married.
Theres another son born in 1922 John F.
-
Thanks again.
Yes. four years before they were married.
Theres another son born in 1922 John F.
John Francis Longstaffe - aged 91 years. Died 2013
https://www.edp24.co.uk/memorials/death-notices/death/30137213.john-francis-longstaffe/
Sandra
-
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Listed on a UK Incoming passenger List but crossed thru which usually means "did not travel"
John Watter Longstaffe -1878 - 11 July 1921 (aged 43 years)
Port of Departure Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date 11 Jul 1921 - Port of Arrival London, England
Ports of Voyage Melbourne; Adelaide; Colombo; Bombay; Aden; Port Said; Marseilles; Gibraltar; Plymouth, Devon, England
Ship Name Malwa
Shipping Line Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Sandra
-
Has anybody identified his mother and father in the census.
We are told its a John William Longstaffe, a draper, but I can't find any close matches.
Paul
-
1891 Workington Cumberland
John W Longstaff 42 Drapers Assistant. Widow.
Sarah Jenkinson 17 Servant.
John W Longstaff 13 born Stockton On Tees.
Ethel L Longstaff 11 born Stockton On Tees.
Horace G Longstaff 9 born Stockton On Tees.
Robert T Longstaff 7 born on Stockton On Tees.
Sandra
-
marriage - registered December 1876
FARNDALE Sarah Ann Stockton 10a 102
Longstaff John William Stockton 10a 102
Sandra
-
Death of John William Longstaff
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2NPT-BVR
Sandra
-
Many thanks Sandra.
I now have both parents and siblings.
Paul
-
Possible sighting in Workington?
The Workington Star, Dec 30th 1898
-
Thats a strange one.
Even his first child (born 4 years before his marriage in 1921) would not fit a date of 1898.......??
John Walter Longstaffe would have been 20 at the time so what child is he objecting to being vaccinated?
Paul
-
Yes, probably not him? Or could it be a grandchild?
-
There were a couple of John William Longstaffs in Workington at the time of that vaccination hearing.
One is John Walter's father, and his children would seem to be too old. The other was born in Illinois circa 1868/9 and had a child Thomas Studholm Longstaff born in September 1898. That's probably the applicant for exemption.
-
Well, at least I kept you busy!