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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: jadewing on Wednesday 10 July 24 07:16 BST (UK)
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I'm hoping to find birth and or marriage records for William Holloway c1794-1870 East Ham
William was a farmer in East Ham and I have located him in the census records 1841-1861.
1841 Census
South Street, East Ham, West Ham, London & Essex, England
William Holloway Male 45 1796 Farmer Essex, England
Barbara Holloway Female 45 1796
Sarah Holloway Female 20 1821 Essex, England
Barbara Holloway Female 20 1821 Essex, England
Mary Holloway Female 20 1821 Essex, England
William Holloway Male 15 1826 Essex, England
Later census records show his wife Barbara was born c1796 in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. Their daughters Barbara and Sarah were born 1818 so they would've married c 1817.
I'm hoping to find William and/or Barbara's parents/maiden name
TIA
Jane
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Have you seen the 1849 marriage to Barbara Bowers at St Martin in the Fields? (William Holloway, farmer of East Ham)
Public tree on Ancestry:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/120845272/person/342009448811/facts
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It's a bit late for my chap Shaun, as the children I've identified so far were born earlier:
Barbara & Sarah (twins?) b 1818
Mary Ann b 1820
William Robert b 1822
Thanks,
Jane
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It's a bit late for my chap Shaun, as the children I've identified so far were born earlier
Well it looks like they didn't get married till 1849.
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They would not be the first couple to bring up a family before they got married.
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There is a William bapt 23 Jun 1793, St Mary Magdalene, East Ham to ROBERT/BARBERY
(other bapts have her as Barbara)
+ burials for ROBERT Holloway 13 Apr 1820 age 59 (c 1761) and BARBARA H 18 Jun 1832 age 74
(c 1758)
Robert HOLOWAY married Barbara JOHNSON 31 May 1781
They name a Son George William Johnston Holloway 1790
All above on FreeREG + also possible bapt for Robert and parents Marriage
Trish :)
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Thanks Trish, very helpful!
I'll have to think about the 1849 marriage Shaun, and I might need to check the certificate!
Cheers,
Jane
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Essex Herald
05 January 1841
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Chelmsford Chronicle
08 July 1870
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I'll have to think about the 1849 marriage Shaun, and I might need to check the certificate!
30 Nov 1849
William full age a farmer - father Robert a farmer
Barbara full age - father Jacob a farmer
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Well that certainly sounds like them doesn’t it! :o Scandalous for the time’ I wonder what prompted them to finally marry?
Thanks!
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Essex Herald
05 January 1841
Sounds like a charming fellow! The James Black, executor mentioned in the second clip is his son-in-law, married to daughter Barbara 1843
Thanks!
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Well that certainly sounds like them doesn’t it! :o Scandalous for the time’ I wonder what prompted them to finally marry?
Thanks!
Probably not as unusual as you think. Sometimes there was a previous marriage for one party and divorce was expensive, or maybe an unplanned pregnancy so they just carried on with life as if they were married. If as it appears without further research that is their marriage then they have married where people would not know them, he gives his abode as East Ham but she has hers as in London
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True Rosie99.
I had forgotten a similar instance up my own tree where the previous husband had absconded, and three children (including my ancestor) were born to the new relationship before they married. Presumably after the death of the absconder. 30 years still seems a long time though!
I've ordered the marriage certificate so we'll see what ages they gave!
Cheers,
Jane