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Title: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: Grotto77 on Tuesday 09 July 24 17:46 BST (UK)
I have a birth certificate from 1920.  Born at 1 Union Road, Birmingham and his mothers address is  7 Court 14 House New Summer Street Birmingham. Her occupation is Cycle Markers Press Worker.  I can find mother and child on the 1921 census at the Birmingham Workhouse with a different address.  Trying to work out if this child was born in the workhouse and that the workhouse had different addresses for different parts of it. Thank you.
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 09 July 24 18:16 BST (UK)
Via Google

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_Union_Workhouse

https://www.workhouses.org.uk/Birmingham/
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: Grotto77 on Tuesday 09 July 24 18:40 BST (UK)
Hi Carol, thanks for these links but they don't have addresses. Pamela
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 09 July 24 18:52 BST (UK)
who/what is at the birth address in 1921? That should indicate if a private residence or part of workhouse.
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: Grotto77 on Wednesday 10 July 24 09:00 BST (UK)
Hi Pauline, the address on the 1921 is Selly Oak workhouse, King's Norton Union Workhouse, Birmingham, she can be found with her baby.  Also found another child (age 3 1/2) of the mother living there but on a different page.  Mother's occupation was Power Presser, Messrs Wallon & Brown, Steel Workers, Place of work Brierley Hill, B'Ham. Thank you Pamela
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 10 July 24 09:10 BST (UK)
Have a look at this for Selly Oak  :-\

https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/threads/selly-oak-hospital-birmingham-aug-15.99347/
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: PaulineJ on Wednesday 10 July 24 11:53 BST (UK)
the question was: who/what at the time of the 1921 census is at the BIRTH address. (1 Union Road)
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 10 July 24 12:04 BST (UK)
The official workhouse addresses for use on birth certificates can be found here https://www.workhouses.org.uk/addresses/
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: Grotto77 on Wednesday 10 July 24 12:09 BST (UK)
Hi BumbleB,  that is a very interested article, thank you for sharing.  Pamela
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 10 July 24 12:37 BST (UK)
who/what is at the birth address in 1921? That should indicate if a private residence or part of workhouse.

1 Union Road, Aston is a private residence - presumably that is the same address as mentioned in OP's post.
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: Grotto77 on Wednesday 10 July 24 19:21 BST (UK)
PaulineJ - thanks for the information.  I guess I will have to pay for the 1921 census records on FindMyPast and look up 1 Union Road.  Also the other address that the mother put down as to where she was living.  It would appear he was not born in the workhouse, more research to do. 
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: Grotto77 on Wednesday 10 July 24 19:23 BST (UK)
JenB - thanks for the link, 1 Union Road is not listed so I guess he was not born in the workhouse.  I will need to do FindMyPast 1921 subscription and look for Union road and the address where his mother lived as on her sons birth certificate.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: MercianSte on Wednesday 10 July 24 21:20 BST (UK)
There were three workhouses in Birmingham - Birmingham, Kings Norton and Aston.


Looking at the link that JenB posted one of the addresses given for Aston workhouse was 1 Union Road, Erdington.


It looks like the family you are looking for was in Aston workhouse in 1920 (was the birth registered in the Aston registration district?), and by the time the census was taken in 1921 they had moved into Kings Norton workhouse.


It may be that the family moved into the workhouse for small periods - I have a similar tale in my family tree. If they had moved to a different area of the city it may explain why they are in a different workhouse in 1921.
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: Grotto77 on Thursday 11 July 24 08:16 BST (UK)
Hi MercianSte
Thank you so much.  The certificate has Erdington, so I looked on the list for Erdington . I should have done a 'search' (control F) for Erdington then I would have found it.  Thanks again.  I can put this one to bed.  Thank you everyone for all your help.

Pamela

Update, someone has just re-pointed out that 1 Union Road is a private house.  Yet the mother is living there and the baby was born there.  The mystery continues.
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 11 July 24 08:19 BST (UK)
who/what is at the birth address in 1921? That should indicate if a private residence or part of workhouse.

1 Union Road, Aston is a private residence - presumably that is the same address as mentioned in OP's post.
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: Ashtone on Thursday 11 July 24 14:49 BST (UK)
Update, someone has just re-pointed out that 1 Union Road is a private house.  Yet the mother is living there and the baby was born there.  The mystery continues.

1 Union Road =  Erdington House, Union Road, Erdington (Aston Union Infirmary/Workhouse)

In the 1921 census, several of the staff who work there refer to it as "Erdington House".

Erdington workhouse records are in the Archives Dept of Birmingham Central Library, but any records within 100 years are closed to researchers. There should be Religious Creed registers, which include information such as: relatives, last address, and date of discharge or death.

Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: Grotto77 on Thursday 11 July 24 14:58 BST (UK)
Thank you Ashtone.  I too think it was a workhouse infirmary.  I don't live near Birmingham otherwise I would be heading down there now to find those records.
Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: Ashtone on Thursday 11 July 24 16:01 BST (UK)
Here is the link about the Archives Dept: https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50134/archives_and_genealogy/1552/archives_and_collections

They do have an email address. Perhaps they can carry out a search for you. I'm sure they will advise if a search fee is required.

Email: archives.heritage@birmingham.gov.uk

Another link: https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50134/archives_and_genealogy/1553/about_our_collections

Title: Re: Birmingham Workhouse
Post by: Grotto77 on Thursday 11 July 24 16:12 BST (UK)
Thank you Ashtone, I will check it out.