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Title: Peter Young b 1828 m. Agnes Lugton in 1853 Haddington
Post by: migalsal on Friday 05 July 24 21:01 BST (UK)
Were Peter's parents James Young and Alison Thompson. Another site has different parents for the Peter who married Agnes Lugton. thanks
Title: Re: Peter Young b 1828 m. Agnes Lugton in 1853 Haddington
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 05 July 24 21:24 BST (UK)
Have you viewed his death registration to check what it says about his parents?

Is this his death in 1900?

PETER YOUNG
Age 71
Mother's maiden name THOMSON
1900
735 / 34
Duns, Berwickshire
Title: Re: Peter Young b 1828 m. Agnes Lugton in 1853 Haddington
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 05 July 24 21:30 BST (UK)
When did Agnes Lugton die?

There are two deaths showing on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

AGNES YOUNG
Age 60
Mother's maiden name GILBURN
1897
727 / 14
Ayton, Berwickshire

or

AGNES YOUNG
Age 77
Mother's maiden name PURVES
1907
735 / 17
Duns, Berwickshire

Probably best to view his death registration to confirm details on SP.

Monica

Title: Re: Peter Young b 1828 m. Agnes Lugton in 1853 Haddington
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 05 July 24 21:35 BST (UK)
Agnes's death in 1907 it seems.

From the National Probate Index (Calendar of Confirmations and Inventories), 1876-1936, it shows:

Name Agnes Lugton Young
Death Date 19 Apr 1907
Death Place Duns
Confirmation Date 26 Aug 1907
Confirmation Place Duns, Scotland

Her son, James Young living at Teviot Cottage, Duns is named as the executor to her will.

Monica
Title: Re: Peter Young b 1828 m. Agnes Lugton in 1853 Haddington
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 05 July 24 21:48 BST (UK)
This looks to be either birth or christening details for the Peter you mention:

PETER YOUNG
Parents JAMES YOUNG/ALLISON THOMSON
07/09/1828
734 30 / 43
Cranshaws, Berwickshire

With mother's maiden name showing as Thomson on Peter's death registration, this looks a likely entry for Peter.

Five other entries for possible siblings with these parents showing in the Old Parish Registers on SP.

Monica
Title: Re: Peter Young b 1828 m. Agnes Lugton in 1853 Haddington
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 06 July 24 02:01 BST (UK)
This looks like your YOUNG family in 1841 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a149944f4040b9d6e9578bb/peter-young-1841-east-lothian-whittinghame-1833-?locale=en
Children baptised in different locations

Same family in 1851 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a149b13f4040b9d6e979008/james-young-1851-east-lothian-whittinghame-1800-?locale=en

1861 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5903055ee9379091b14632e0/james-young-1861-east-lothian-stenton-1800-?locale=en
Title: Re: Peter Young b 1828 m. Agnes Lugton in 1853 Haddington
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 06 July 24 02:19 BST (UK)
It looks as if James Young died in Stenton in 1863. Death certificate should give parents names. SP Index shows mother as "WOOD", but I wonder if this is his baptism …..

YOUNG   JAMES    Father - WILLIAM YOUNG      17/JUNE/1799   EAST BARNS ASSOCIATE

3 other children baptised in same church 1795 – 1804
(Certificates needed to confirm)


Marriage of parents?
YOUNG   WILLIAM       to     ANN WATT    (FR954)   06/06/1794   711   30 / 387   INNERWICK
Title: Re: Peter Young b 1828 m. Agnes Lugton in 1853 Haddington
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 06 July 24 02:36 BST (UK)
1861 census for James Young infers he is still married, but no sign of his wife Alison after the 1851 census.

There is a likely death for her in 1855 Whittingehame (which is where they are living in 1851 census)
YOUNG   ALISON   61   mother - PATTERSON   F   1855   724 / 5   WHITTINGEHAME
THOMSON   ALISON   61   mother - PATTERSON   F   1855   724 / 5   WHITTINGEHAME
(Certificate needed to confirm)


Baptism for Alison Thompson?
THOMPSON   ALISON   
parents JAMES THOMPSON / JANET PATERSON   (FR114)
 02/08/1795             727   10 / 105   AYTON

(I would not be surprised to find the mother was actually "Margaret" Paterson - "Janet" being an error on the register?)
Title: Re: Peter Young b 1828 m. Agnes Lugton in 1853 Haddington
Post by: migalsal on Tuesday 09 July 24 20:58 BST (UK)
(I would not be surprised to find the mother was actually "Margaret" Paterson - "Janet" being an error on the register?) Is the only reason for this because she named her daughter Margaret too?
Title: Re: Peter Young b 1828 m. Agnes Lugton in 1853 Haddington
Post by: migalsal on Tuesday 09 July 24 21:01 BST (UK)
What is East Barns Associate?
Title: Re: Peter Young b 1828 m. Agnes Lugton in 1853 Haddington
Post by: Neale1961 on Tuesday 09 July 24 22:58 BST (UK)
East Barns Associate Congregational Church
Title: Re: Peter Young b 1828 m. Agnes Lugton in 1853 Haddington
Post by: migalsal on Friday 21 February 25 18:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all of this. Getting back to Peter Young he is 8 in 1841 but not there in 1851. Yes he was 18  in 1851 but his older sibs are still at home. I am beginning to think that my Peter is not the one who married Agnes Lugton in  1853 in Haddington East Lothian.
Title: Re: Peter Young b 1828 m. Agnes Lugton in 1853 Haddington
Post by: Neale1961 on Friday 21 February 25 21:54 GMT (UK)
Have you looked at his death certificate to confirm his parents' names?
Title: Re: Peter Young b 1828 m. Agnes Lugton in 1853 Haddington
Post by: David Nicoll on Saturday 22 February 25 00:24 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I am a little confused. Who is your Peter Young?
As far as I can see for Peter Young who married Agnes Lurton, you have a pretty clear family as given by other contributors.
You say he is 8 in 1841 and 18 in 1851, but in fact if he is born in 1828 he is 22 or 23.
As far as I can see he is probably the Peter who is aged 22 in Duns in 1851.
As other contributors have said you only need to check a couple of records on SP to confirm all this.
The original records have a lot more information on than any transcripts and are essential for any research in Scotland.
Finally don’t rely on anyone else’s research, everyone makes mistakes, even the people filling in the forms!

Happy hunting