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Title: help needed new to Irish research
Post by: Cragside on Wednesday 03 July 24 20:00 BST (UK)
Hello everyone I'm new to researching Irish records and would appreciate if anyone can point me in the right direction.
My great great grandfather Patrick (sometimes k/as Peter) Conroy was born in Mountmellick Co Laois in 1840 (possibly 19/01/1840). His parents were Murtagh Conroy & Mary Conroy (nee McDermott).
By 1858 Patrick was living in the UK in the city of Bradford then moved on to Newcastle on Tyne.
I'm lead to believe that sometime prior to 1858 the family moved to Kilkenny where his father Murtagh ran a fresh fish shop.
I'd like to find out when and where they moved to in Kilkenny and are there any business records I can use to find out more about this.
I did find a recent article in a Kilkenny newspaper concerning a Mick Conroy who was closing his fresh fish shop business which had been set up by his father Michael. Could this be the same family? How do I find out if this could be linked to Murtagh?
Thanks in advance for any offers  of help.
Title: Re: help needed new to Irish research
Post by: dublin1850 on Saturday 06 July 24 18:35 BST (UK)
You could write to the newspaper and ask them to forward a letter/email to the man closed the shop.
Ireland's a small place really.
Title: Re: help needed new to Irish research
Post by: heywood on Saturday 06 July 24 19:22 BST (UK)
I am not sure what you are searching - however..
There is this family in 1851 - have you checked them?

1851 2307/368/23
Ancestry has him as Mart but it reads Murt
Mart and Mary Conroy with children
Here is Mary
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SPMD-S3H

Patt is 10 yrs b Ireland
Michael 15 yrs b Ireland
William 6 months b Ireland

There is a baptism record for Patt - 1840, Rosenallis as you quote
Plus Michael 9th October 1836
Title: Re: help needed new to Irish research
Post by: heywood on Saturday 06 July 24 19:30 BST (UK)
What was Patrick’s father’s occupation on his marriage certificate?
Where do you have Patrick/Peter in English records?
Title: Re: help needed new to Irish research
Post by: heywood on Saturday 06 July 24 19:36 BST (UK)
In 1851, Murt is 35 yrs

There is a death in Bradford in 1855 - Murtough Conroy, 40 yrs
Title: Re: help needed new to Irish research
Post by: Cragside on Monday 08 July 24 13:37 BST (UK)
Thanks for all the information folks. Never used family search so thanks for finding Mart/Murt (often gets mistaken or maybe Anglicised)

I'd like to find his movements in Ireland from Mountmellick to Kilkenny.

Patrick's marriage cert shows his father deceased which ties in with the date of death provided as 1955 in Bradford.
In English records he lived Bradford till 1858 when he enlisted and on Discharge in 1878 he was  discharged to Newcastle upon Tyne.

Thanks for the tip on writing to the newspaper i will certainly consider doing that.
Title: Re: help needed new to Irish research
Post by: heywood on Monday 08 July 24 16:54 BST (UK)
Hello,
If you think that is Murt in Bradford in 1851, besides Michael and Patt’s baptisms in Rosenallis, Laois, there are also baptisms as follows:

Elizabeth, 29th January 1843
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634574#page/54/mode/1up

Cath, 22nd June 1845
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634574#page/58/mode/1up

There is this possible child too:
Martin, 7th May 1848 with parents ‘Mail’ and Mary McDermott

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634574#page/64/mode/1up

This would imply that the move from Laois to Kilkenny was 1848 - 1851

According to 1851 census, William was born in Ireland c 1850. I have not found that birth.