RootsChat.Com

Research in Other Countries => Europe => Topic started by: cerilogan81 on Friday 28 June 24 10:56 BST (UK)

Title: Hawrylewicz family from Wielki Lubien, Poland
Post by: cerilogan81 on Friday 28 June 24 10:56 BST (UK)
Hi

Anyone here any good at researching Polish evacuees to the UK during WW2?

I've got a family I'm trying to find pre-evacuation in the above village before 1944

Stanislaw Hawrylewicz born 25 Sept 1926 Poland died Eyemouth 2018

I'd love to know who his parents were and if he had any brothers & sisters???

His mother's maiden name is MISKOW

Thanks
Title: Re: Hawrylewicz family from Wielki Lubien, Poland
Post by: cath151 on Friday 28 June 24 11:49 BST (UK)
Hi ,
Did Stanislaw marry in 1977 to Anne Jardine, or could this be a son of his?
Found a marriage notice in the papers but perhaps too late a marriage?
Cathy
Title: Re: Hawrylewicz family from Wielki Lubien, Poland
Post by: cath151 on Friday 28 June 24 12:14 BST (UK)
Apologies, wrong marriage, two Annies!.
He seems to have marries Annie Crombie in St Giles 1950.( Scotlands People)
If you purchase the marriage certificate it should give Stan's father's name.
Cathy
Title: Re: Hawrylewicz family from Wielki Lubien, Poland
Post by: davecapps on Friday 28 June 24 14:22 BST (UK)
Just in case you don´t have this.
https://collections.arolsen-archives.org/en/search?s=Stanislaw%20Hawrylewicz
click on "show more results"
Title: Re: Hawrylewicz family from Wielki Lubien, Poland
Post by: fiddlerslass on Friday 28 June 24 16:08 BST (UK)
If catholic, family search has some  records up to 1890 but they would have to be viewed at a family history centre

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/587050?availability=Family%20History%20Library
Title: Re: Hawrylewicz family from Wielki Lubien, Poland
Post by: fiddlerslass on Friday 28 June 24 16:43 BST (UK)
1912 directory

Second column
Lubien Wielki,  Hawrylewicz Grzegorz

The little symbol means post office, so I assume he was the post master.



https://academica.edu.pl/reading/readSingle?uid=110054951&page=248
Title: Re: Hawrylewicz family from Wielki Lubien, Poland
Post by: cerilogan81 on Saturday 29 June 24 07:48 BST (UK)
Hey thanks for all the help so far?

I got the records but am not sure who Boleslaw is? is he an older brother?

Gregorsz??? Possibly the father??

I have no idea....
Title: Re: Hawrylewicz family from Wielki Lubien, Poland
Post by: fiddlerslass on Saturday 29 June 24 08:26 BST (UK)
Boleslaw ref Arolsen archives, not necessarily related, seems to come from a different town.

Grzegorz in the Arolsen record ( parents Grzegorz & Anastasia) probably the son of the one in the directory. May be related to Stanislaw. Scottish marriage record should give father's details as suggested previously.

Although Czechia is more my area of research I have found previously that there is very little online for Poland currently. I checked the Polish archives but Wielki Lubien records are not digitised. You may need to employ a researcher to bridge the gap between what is available at familysearch and 1926.

Polish archive search portal

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/en/strona_glowna


Guide to research
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Poland_Genealogy




Title: Re: Hawrylewicz family from Wielki Lubien, Poland
Post by: fiddlerslass on Saturday 29 June 24 12:01 BST (UK)
Confusingly there are 2 places with similar names.

The man in the Arolsen archives, Grzegorz, seems to come from Lubien Wielki (old Polish name) near city of  Lwow/Lviv, now the Ukrainian village of Velykyi Liubin

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velykyi_Liubin

There is also Wielki Lubień in north central Poland in Kuyavia-Pomerania

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wielki_Lubie%C5%84

Some of the records for Velykyi Liubin are on familysearch to view online.
Title: Re: Hawrylewicz family from Wielki Lubien, Poland
Post by: TreeSpirit on Monday 01 July 24 10:27 BST (UK)
Being listed as a polish victim of persecution, Stanislaw’s death (1998) seems to be different from the OP’s original description (2018).
And then after all of that, the YOD turns out to to be 2013: “ILMO Stan Hawrylewicz d. 29.6.2013 aged 87y” (https://billiongraves.com/grave/Stan-Hawrylewicz/17127640 )


Surname: HAWRYLEWICZ
Name: STANISŁAW
father's name: JÓZEF
mother's name: MARIA

date of birth: 1924-10-02
place of birth: LUBIEŃ
date of death: 1998-07-09 (could this date be for something else?)
-
Information about persecution
Source: AAN (=”Archiwum Akt Nowych”)
Team: Fundacja Polsko-Niemieckie Pojednanie w Warszawie (= Polish-German Reconciliation Foundation in Warsaw) [#2680] 390702
Forced laborer: survived
Type of forced labor: employed in industry
Place of Work: BYTOM (?)
Date of commencement of work: 1942-02
Date of completion of work: 1945-01
-
“Fundacja Polsko-Niemieckie Pojednanie w Warszawie” contains  “Documentation of people, former prisoners of concentration camps and forced laborers of the Third Reich, applying for payment of financial benefits from the German fund and people applying for humanitarian and social assistance”. This foundation was established in 1991. It is mentioned as follows, but there are no online scans available yet: https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/zespol/-/zespol/51737
More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_for_Polish-German_Reconciliation


Update: I realised that this guy has a different DOB as well, so most likely a second persecuted person with the same name from the same place ... Hmmmm!



FYI only
I believe that the following town is the correct Lubien, as the Hawrylewicz surname seems to be mainly concentrated in Ukraine:
Lubien Wielki, Galicia, Austria;
later Lubien Wielki (Gródek Jagielloński), Lwów, Poland;
now Velykyy Lyubin, L'viv, Ukraine.

Title: Re: Hawrylewicz family from Wielki Lubien, Poland
Post by: fiddlerslass on Monday 01 July 24 13:49 BST (UK)
I agree, most likely to be the Ukrainian village.

There is also a Lubień  without any description such as Greater/Big  (meaning of Великий/Velykyy) located south of Krakow.

Surname distribution map Poland


https://www.mapanazwisk.eu/en/


Ukraine - type name  in Roman alphabet and it will convert to Ukrainian Cyrillic

https://ridni.org/karta/
Title: Re: Hawrylewicz family from Wielki Lubien, Poland
Post by: Rob the luthier on Wednesday 24 July 24 18:49 BST (UK)
Hi

Anyone here any good at researching Polish evacuees to the UK during WW2?

I've got a family I'm trying to find pre-evacuation in the above village before 1944

Stanislaw Hawrylewicz born 25 Sept 1926 Poland died Eyemouth 2018

I'd love to know who his parents were and if he had any brothers & sisters???

His mother's maiden name is MISKOW

Thanks
Stanislaw was my Grandad, his dad was called Bazyli and his mother called Katerzyna, he had an older brother who died young and a couple of younger brothers and a younger sister.
      Can I ask who you are please.