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I have a rather large amount of information from my 3rd great grandfather William Fortt down
William Fortt
B:1 May 1796 Bath, Somerset, England
D:19 Jan 1880 1 Claremont Buildings, Combe Down, Bath, Somerset, England
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Yet I have been having a lot of trouble sorting out his siblings.
I was wanting to find clarity on his siblings their spouses and children at least one generation down.
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His parents are
John Fortt
B:1761 Bath, Somerset, England
D: July 1842 Bath, Somerset, England
and
Ann Bishop
B:1749 Bath, Somerset, England
D:????? I would like to find her death date
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as far as I can tell his siblings are
James Fortt
B: Dec 1792 Bath, Somerset, England
D:22 Mar 1832 Bath, Somerset, England
Marraiage and kids unknown
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I have plenty of information on John Fortt including his wife and kids.
John Fortt
B: Jan 1795 Bath, Somerset, England
D: April 1865 Bath, Somerset, England
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Harriet Fortt
B:17 Dec 1799 Bath, Somerset, England
D: Unknown
Marriage unknowns
Kids unknown
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George Fortt
B:Dec 1801 Bath, Somerset, England
D: Unknown
Marriage unknowns
Kids unknown
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Honour Fortt
B:Sep 1803 Bath, Somerset, England
D:Jan 1866 London, England
married
William H Bennett?
B: Abt. 1805 Bath, Somerset, England
D:23 Jan 1885 London, England
Kids unknown
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Possible brother???
Thomas Fortt
Born about 1808 Bath, Somerset, England
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to be clear I am looking for information on the siblings of my third great grandfather not my great grandfather
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FreeReg has the following children for John Fortt and Ann
James bap 9 December 1792
John bap 25 January 1795
William bap 1 May 1796
Angelina bap 8 April 1798 (Fort)
Harriett bap 1 December 1799
Elizabeth bap 27 December 1801
Honor bap 18 September 1803
Harriett bap 7 July 1805
Thomas bap 19 November 1809
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George 1801 has parents Thomas and Ann
There is another George Fortt buried 21 August 1792
On some entries Thomas and Ann have the name Ford
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The image for Ann/Angelina is on ancestry. It is written Ann then gelina added to the name.
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There is an Ann Fortt buried St Swithins Bath 12 September 1847 (might be death date)
Ref: Find A Grave
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GRO Index
Registered at Bath September quarter 1847 vol 11 page 34 Ann FORT age 80
Dob circa 1767
So she could be the Ann you are looking for, her death certificate might help, who reported her death, where she was living etc.
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Marriage of Honor FORTT to William H BENNETT 29 December 1823 St Mary Radcliffe, Bristol
Transcriptions FindMyPast
Henry William bap 2 October 1825 Bath Somerset. possible death 1849 age 24 - Bath
Henry bap 8 December 1826 (is this the same child perhaps privately bap. then received into church)
need to see an original
Eliza Jane bap 26 March 1829
Father listed as an auctioneer.
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need to find more children 1829 - 1839
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Census 1841
Mary circa 1832
William circa 1835
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GRO Index. BENNETT with mother's maiden name FORTT all registered Bath
Fanny 1839 died 1840 age 1
Jane 1841
Female 1843 (not yet named)
Samuel 1846
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Henry - 1826 - address given as Westgate Street, father's occupation is Auctioneer. No indication of being accepted into church. Parish record image available on Ancestry.
Eliza Jane - born 28 December 1828, baptised 26 March 1829. Address and occupation as for Henry.
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Thanks BumbleB it seemed odd to have 2 children named Henry.
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Thomas Fortt (1809) married Eliza Tucker 22 March 1831 Walcot
Witnesses are James Fortt and William Barrett
James Fortt could be his elder brother.
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1841 census
Thomas Fortt 30 Hair Dresser
Eliza 30
William 9
Elizabeth 7
Charles 10 months.
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GRO Index
Charles Fortt registered Bath 1840 mother's maiden name TUCKER
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Baptisms at Walcot St Swithins
William James Fortt 11 January 1832
Elizabeth Ann Fortt 18 May 1834
Thomas Fortt 31 July 1836 - buried 11 May 1837 age 10 months- Harley Streeet, Wesleyan Methodist
John Thomas Fortt 15 April 1838 of 1 Harley Street. Died 1840 age 2 (GRO Index)
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Thomas Fortt (snr) buried 9 February 1845 age 35 St Swithins Walcot
Wife Eliza died 1842 age 35 Ref: GRO Index registered Bath.
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1851census
Charles son of Thomas and Eliza nee Tucker is with his grandparents Joseph and Elizabeth Tucker.
Daughter Elizabeth Fortt is in an orphange in Bath.
Son William James Fortt could be an Army Private Chatham Barracks 1851 born Walcot Somerset.
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There is a burial for Harriett Fortt 25 January 1804 at St Michael's no age given, but would fit
as John and Ann Fortt had another daughter named Harriett 1805.
Notes
Sarah Fortt- child - buried 1804 14 April
Elizabeth Fortt buried 1804 16 April- child
Elizabeth could be John's daughter born 1801
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Thank you very much I have been having trouble with this.
Who is the Sarah Fortt that died in 1804?
Could she be a daughter of James (b1792)?
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in
Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914
page 189
I found
Name James Fortt
Marriage 27 Mar 1825 Bath, St Michael, Somerset, England
Spouse Margarita Blackmore
I think this is the James Fortt (b1792)
other than the right church though I am not sure it is the right James Fortt?
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Sarah could be another daughter, although I haven't found a baptism to date.
There is a Thomas Fort/Ford and Ann also having children at the same time- more research needed
if the name was Fortt or Ford or if sometimes interchangeable.
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Joseph Fortt married Amelia Cutland 16 July 1806 so Sarah did not belong to them
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where I went screwy last time was with
Charles Henry Fortt
son of Thomas Fortt and Eliza Tucker
last time I tried to make movement on this I ended up with a different Charles Fortt that moved to Wales. I found that this was totally the wrong person of the same name. I ended up erasing even Thomas and Eliza when try to correct it.
to recap what I have in my tree
The right Charles Fortt that married Elizabeth Bethell
Marriages Dec 1863 Fortt Charles Henry in Bath 5c 1236
as far as I can find they three Children one of which died young.
1. Jane Eliza Fortt (Eliza) who I have fallowed down two more generations to living people
2.James Charles Fortt
BIRTH MAR 1864 • Walcot, Bath, Avon, Somerset, England
DEATH SEP 1864 • Walcot, Bath, Avon, Somerset, England
(I found the records in the GRO)
3. James Charles Fortt (same name as brother that died young)
FORTT, JAMES CHARLES mother BETHELL GRO Reference: 1867 J Quarter in BATH Volume 05C Page 708
I found his baptism which had a transcription error of Fartt rather than Fortt
after that I can't find anything on him
I have looked for a death and marriage record but got nothing that stands out as him. So, if anyone can find out what happened to him that would be great.
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So in 1871 Charles is a widower with just his daughter Eliza living with the Bethell grandfather And Elizabeth’s death in 1869.
I would be suspicious of this death
Deaths Sep 1870
FORD James 3 Bath 5c 448
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So in 1871 Charles is a widower with just his daughter Eliza living with the Bethell grandfather And Elizabeth’s death in 1869.
I would be suspicious of this death
Deaths Sep 1870
FORD James 3 Bath 5c 448
I had to clear a bunch of hints from the Charles Fortt in Wales and look through the 1871 census to find the right Charles Fortt census.
Since the 2nd James Charles Fortt born 1867 is not with his father and sister in 1871, I assume he has died although he could be elsewhere.
That James Ford death is possible to be James Fortt B1867
I have two James Fords born in somerset that it could of been yet I found their death records and isn't the one from bath
Births Dec 1866
Ford James E Keynsham 5c 679 (mother SHEPPARD)
died
Deaths Mar 1867
Ford James 0 Keynsham 5c 556
Births Mar 1867
FORD James Keynsham 5c 743 (mother PILLINGER )
died
Deaths Jun 1868
FORD James Everett 1 Keynsham 5c 433
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So, I am trying to find a death date for this Charles Fortt. I think i have him in a 1901 census so likely after that. unless I made an error
I am also missing the 1881 census for Charles and his daughter Jane Eliza Fortt.
Jane was married in 1883 to Frank Bull had two kids and died 31 DEC 1884 • Lyncombe & Widcombe, Bath, Avon, Somerset, England
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I might have Charles on 1881
He's boarding with a Sarah Tucker in Bradford on Avon in 1901 (a relative?)
Back in 1881 she and husband David have a number of lodgers including a Charles Ford aged 40, a widower b Bath, occupation mason's labourer (same as CHF on 1901)
Piece 1925, folio 25, p 4
Charles also with Sarah in 1891
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There's a couple of Eliza (and similar) Fords b Bath c1865 on the 1881 census. One's a domestic servant in lodgings in Bath - possible?
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Is the 1901 you have the Charles Fortt, age 60 boarding with Sarah Tucker in Bradford on Avon?
Is she a relative of his mother?
Anyway if so, have you ruled out the one whose age is 10 yrs out, but dies in 1906 B on A.
(Crossed with Mabel)
The Eliza Ford lodging with a Charlotte Bryant looks possible to me. Although Charlotte has a different place of birth to all her other entries.
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alright thank you thank you.
I am now back up to Charles Henry Fortt surviving siblings
to recap what I have
William James Fortt
B:Abt. 1832 Somerset, England
all I have on him is a baptism and 1841 and 1851 census
Baptisms at Walcot St Swithins
William James Fortt 11 January 1832
1841
Piece 970
Book 12
Folio 33
Page number 11
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1851 • chatham barracks, Walcot, Somerset, England
William James Fortt could be an Army Private Chatham Barracks Walcot Somerset
I found a possible death for him on find a grave but it is hard to tell if it is the right person
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/222693593/william-fortt
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as for
Elizabeth Fortt ???
B:1834 Lansdown, Bath, Somerset, England
multiple people have her
married to
Joseph Harris Patrick ???? but the documents don't line up. I have found no marriage record of that. None of the patrick children listed on their tree show up in the GRO even though they are in the right time to be there.
so I am not sure about the marriage?
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The William Fortt burial looks to be in the same grave as a Mary Fortt b 1795, died or buried 16 May 1846 with an address in Milsom St
There are some other Fortts in that graveyard - might be worth seeing if there's any connection
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this is the Milsom St Fortt family in 1841 who are involved in t he non conformist burials
Willm Fortt 45 confectioner
Mary Fortt 45
Eliza Fortt 15
Robert Fortt 15
Emma Fortt 15
Jane Fortt 11
William Fortt 10
James Fortt 8
Emily Fortt 4
Mary and young William are in grave ?.A.10
In C.A 11 (next grave?) are John 1757-1842, John 1835-40 and Mary Ann 1829-1831. The two children are from Milsom St.
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Joseph Harris Patrick ???? but the documents don't line up. I have found no marriage record of that. None of the patrick children listed on their tree show up in the GRO even though they are in the right time to be there.
Have you not looked at Joseph in the 1861 census? A big clue there I think.
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[SNAP!} I'm looking at the Joseph Harris Patrick connection
He marries in 1846 a Caroline Tucker in Weston
1861
Joseph H Patrick 36 Head
Joseph H Patrick 11
Mary H Patrick 6
Emily H Patrick 1
Elizabeth Fortt 76 [16 26] niece (corrected)
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At least one child is on GRO
PATRICK, ELIZABETH HARRIS
mmn FORTT
Q2 1870
BATH Volume 05C Page 694
They may not have married if they were related in the way suggested on 1861
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this is the Milsom St Fortt family in 1841 who are involved in t he non conformist burials
Willm Fortt 45 confectioner
Mary Fortt 45
Eliza Fortt 15
Robert Fortt 15
Emma Fortt 15
Jane Fortt 11
William Fortt 10
James Fortt 8
Emily Fortt 4
Mary and young William are in grave ?.A.10
In C.A 11 (next grave?) are John 1757-1842, John 1835-40 and Mary Ann 1829-1831. The two children are from Milsom St.
The William Fortt here is my 3x great grandfather a museum exhibition was done on them in 2013.
I fair sized book was also written on their business Called "Biscuits, banquets & Bollinger.
This is the right William Fortt for this family. I have tons of information on them and where very interesting to research .
For the A 10 Grave this Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) died in 1846. is that the right date on the grave you found?
Important to clarify her child William Fortt (jr) from the above names is buried with her????
I have had issues with finding the right William Fortt Chid for William and Mary.
Most people on Ancestry have mixed up my third great grandfather son William Fortt born 1831 Bath, Somerset, England with William King Fortt.
William King Fortt is the son of
John Fortt who is William Fortt seniors' brother (one of his siblings I actually have information on)
Where did you find the grave?
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Okay, so Joseph Patrick is Eliza's Fortt's uncle by marriage from what must be her mom's sister
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Hopefully this link will take you to search results on Find My Grave for Fortts in the Walcot Methodist Chapel Burial Ground
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2694375/memorial-search?firstName=&lastName=Fortt&includeMaidenName=true&page=1#sr-222693586
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for this family I have extensively run down most of the lines to living people or one generation off that.
I haven't been able to move past my 5th great grandparents Joseph Fortt G85F-LLR
and Elizabeth nee Virgen MHC1-22V (known as Betty)
I have included their family search ID numbers since I have so little on them.
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So, for this Family I made much progress since the first posting.
I went over some things again and found that I have had the Wrong birth and Parents for Ann Bishop.
So, I am back looking for my 4th Great grandparents, her mom and dad.
She would have been born ABT. 1767 as stated by her death age
GRO Index Registered at Bath September quarter 1847 vol 11 page 34 Ann FORT age 80 (this is from earlier in this thread) death 12 Sep 1847
she married John Fortt
5 Nov 1789 • Bath, St Michael's Without The Gate, Somerset, England
we sorted out their children, but Ann's parents are still in question.
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I have found a couple of Ann Bishops in somerset although I don't have any proof she was born in Somerset other than she was living there
Name Ann Bishop
Sex Female
Father's Name John Bishop
Father's Sex Male
Event Type Christening
Event Date 27 Jun 1766
Event Place Somerset, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Crewkerne, Somerset, England
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Name Ann Bishop
Religion Anglican
Father's Name William Bishop
Father's Sex Male
Mother's Name Elizabeth or Betty
Mother's Sex Female
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 31 Aug 1766
Event Place Aisholt, Somerset, England
Record Type Baptisms, marriages & burials
Document Type Parish records
Source Publication Year Range 1679-1796
Reference AISH 2/1/2
Affiliate Name Somerset Archives
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Name Ann Bishop
Sex Female
Father's Name Edward Bishop
Father's Sex Male
Mother's Name Mary
Mother's Sex Female
Event Type Christening
Event Date 29 Nov 1767
Event Place Pitcombe, Somerset, England
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Name Ann Bishop
Religion Anglican
Father's Name Thomas Bishop
Father's Sex Male
Mother's Name Mary
Mother's Sex Female
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 13 Oct 1765
Event Place Wiveliscombe, Somerset, England
Record Type Baptisms & burials
Document Type Parish records
Page 11
Source Publication Year Range 1760-1812
Reference D/P/WIV 2/1/7
Affiliate Name Somerset Archives
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I wasn't able to find her in the 1841 census, but I did find her husband John
If anyone could Find her in in 1841 it might have some small clue
Name John Fortt
Age 80
Estimated Birth Year abt 1761
Gender Male
Where born Somerset, England
Civil parish Lyncombe and Widcombe
Hundred Bath Forum
County/Island Somerset
Country England
Street address:Occupation
Registration District Bath
Sub-registration district Lyncombe and Widcombe
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 931
Book 14
Folio 44
Page number 5