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Title: "Death" Help Please.
Post by: mich b on Friday 21 June 24 16:35 BST (UK)
Good afternoon,

I have been researching for many years, but I cannot find a death registration for my 2x great grandfather, Thomas Edwin Horton, he was know as Edwin.

Born January 1861 in Saddington
Married October 1890 to Lavinia Dann in Cosby
Had 5 children I've found 4, 1 child died) Edwin (Dann - later Horton), Dora, Harold and Olga.

1901 census they are living at Clarendon Park Road, Leicester, formerly Knighton
1911 census they are living at Mill St. Leicester
1921 Lavinia is listed as a widow (her son completed the census).

Thomas Edwin Horton was the son of a Saddington landowner. He got the maid pregnant and against his father's wishes, married her when his son was 4 years old. His father disinherited him.

I believe Thomas Edwin was a spendthrift. On the death of his uncle (father's brother) he inherited a tidy sum, but the will shows the uncle had left instructions to clear his nephew's debts, once cleared there wasn't much left.
During WW1 the sons write postcards to Mrs E Horton (so to their mum, not both parents), despite having a rough idea of when he must have died, I cannot find any records.

Lavinia could write, but all of her children could.

Please can anyone help, or advise?

Thanks in advance.

Michelle
Title: Re: "Death" Help Please.
Post by: mich b on Friday 21 June 24 16:39 BST (UK)
It should say, "Lavinia COULDN'T write". I mention this in case Thomas Edwin is listed just as Edwin. In his working life, he was a salesman, a grocer and railway worker.

Thank you.
Title: Re: "Death" Help Please.
Post by: Ashtone on Friday 21 June 24 16:48 BST (UK)
There's a 1913 Trade Union Membership Registers record for an Edwin Horton (engine driver).

Birth year  1857
Union Branch  Leicester 4
Title: Re: "Death" Help Please.
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Friday 21 June 24 16:51 BST (UK)
Possibly this one?

HORTON, EDWIN  THOMAS  age   60 
GRO Reference: 1921  J Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 249

Age 10 on freebmd

Deaths Jun 1921   
Horton    Edwin T    10    Leicester    7a   249   
Title: Re: "Death" Help Please.
Post by: JenB on Friday 21 June 24 16:59 BST (UK)
Possibly this one?

HORTON, EDWIN  THOMAS  age   60 
GRO Reference: 1921  J Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 249

Age 10 on freebmd

Deaths Jun 1921   
Horton    Edwin T    10    Leicester    7a   249   

There is a newspaper report on 5th April 1921 of the death of an Edwin Thomas Horton aged 60 of 3, Mill Street Leicester.
His wife is named as Lavinia.
Title: Re: "Death" Help Please.
Post by: mich b on Friday 21 June 24 17:08 BST (UK)
Thanks Ashtone, I don't think that will be him. His sister was born in 1857, he was said to be born in 1861, it fairly consistent through the records.

Thanks Cas, It could be although the forenames are back to front.

Thanks Jen.

I've now got it up on Ancestry. Its also triggered a memory of my Nana saying when she was born her grandfather died. Nana was born at the end 1920, so this rings true.

It leaves me with questions as to why when the sons wrote home during WW1, they only addressed their mum as Mrs, E Horton. The 1921 census was taken in the month of June, so I guess he could have just died.

Thank you for your help. If anyone finds a will or burial record, I would appreciate it very much.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: "Death" Help Please.
Post by: mich b on Friday 21 June 24 17:36 BST (UK)
Thanks Jen,

I've only just spotted the Newspaper listing. Thank you very much.

Could you advise whether there is a way to view newspaper publications online please? If there are multiple options, which one do you consider to be the best, i.e. so I can view the obituary?

Thank you.
Title: Re: "Death" Help Please.
Post by: JenB on Friday 21 June 24 17:44 BST (UK)
I've only just spotted the Newspaper listing. Thank you very much.

Yes, that confirms the death which Cas had already found for you.

For newspaper searches I use Findmypast.

There isn't an obituary. The details I quoted were from a report about his sudden death from angina pectoris.

Title: Re: "Death" Help Please.
Post by: mich b on Friday 21 June 24 17:45 BST (UK)
Thanks for the clarification.

Thanks to everyone who helped.
Title: Re: "Death" Help Please.
Post by: willsy on Friday 21 June 24 20:45 BST (UK)
Thomas Edwin Horton died 5 Apr 1921 and is buried in unconsecrated ground at Welford Road

Section R Plot 2246

There are 5 people in the same plot, the 3 previous burials before Thomas were common burials, the last one being 1895. The burial after Thomas is in 1941 which just happens to be an Edwin Horton and is a freehold burial, Thomas Edwin's burial also freehold.

Edwin was buried 30 Jul 1941 age 54 died at the Royal Infirmary but was of 45 Audley End.

Did Lavinia die 1957?

Title: Re: "Death" Help Please.
Post by: willsy on Friday 21 June 24 20:55 BST (UK)
Probate index for Edwin has administration to Lavinia Horton widow.

Forgot to mention he is as Thomas Edwin Horton, 3 Mill Street in the Welford Road Burials.
Title: Re: "Death" Help Please.
Post by: willsy on Friday 21 June 24 21:08 BST (UK)
Electoral Roll has Thomas and Lavinia together at 3 Mill Street  1918

1920/21 also with their 2 sons
Title: Re: "Death" Help Please.
Post by: mich b on Friday 21 June 24 22:36 BST (UK)
Thanks Willsy.
Title: Re: "Death" Help Please.
Post by: mich b on Tuesday 25 June 24 14:29 BST (UK)
Thanks Willsy.

Yes Lavinia was his widow, she did die in 1957 aged 90. My mum refers to her as granny.

Thomas Edwin Horton (called Edwin) had a son, called Edwin. (He was born Edwin Dann as Lavinia and Thos Edwin didn't get married until the boy was 4).

By the time Uncle Ted died (boy Edwin) the family were living at Audley End, Leicester. Uncle Ted's death was tragic on that he was giving his young nephew, Brian, a lift on his pedal bike and, it's believed, the nephew's sandal got stuck in the spokes causing them both to fall from the bike.

A shoeless little boy ran home and uncle Ted was found on the pavement with a head injury, it was a fractured skull. He died from his  injuries.

I have now bought Thomas Edwins death certificate.

Thanks for everyone's help.