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Title: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: Amiraibrahimx on Friday 21 June 24 11:56 BST (UK)
Hello everyone,

I'm Prudence Hassan's/Mohamed’s great-granddaughter, and I'm trying to learn more about her and her family. Here's what I have discovered so far:

Name and Marriage History:

From what I've found Prudence was born around 1898 and passed away in the first quarter of 1956 in Cardiff at the age of 58.
She was previously married before marrying my , Towalla Mohamed, in 1924 in Cardiff. His name was spelled differently in various records.

Marriage Details:

The second marriage can be traced in the records as:
Prudence Hassan, Jul-Aug-Sep 1924, Cardiff Glamorgan, Volume Number: 11a, Page Number: 980.

Can you help me find her father's name and occupation, her age, and her address at the time of marriage.

First Marriage:

Possible first marriage record:
Ali J M Hassan and Prudence Madden, 20 July 1918, Registration district: Dublin South, Volume: 2, Page: 543.

Children:

My grandfather Abraham Mohamed was born in Sept 1925 in Cardiff, with Prudence's maiden name listed as Madden. I'm aware of three children Moses and Ali I believe however I have no record of Ali but would like to know if Prudence had any more children.

Uncertain Origins:

If anyone has more information or can provide further guidance on how to trace Prudence's family origins, especially her parents details and any other potential children she might have had, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you for your help!
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 21 June 24 12:10 BST (UK)
The best way for extra info is to buy the 1924 Marriage Cert.

Trish :)

Title: Re: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: Dundee on Friday 21 June 24 12:17 BST (UK)
Marriage of Ali and Prudence, her father is Robert MADDEN, deceased.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09720/5526684.pdf

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 21 June 24 12:23 BST (UK)
Births Sep 1923
Hassan  Moses J    mmn Madden Cardiff    11a   755
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 21 June 24 12:23 BST (UK)
Welcome to rootschat

Prudence and Ali are in Cardiff in 1921, it suggests that this is probably her birth registration on Scotlands People

MADDEN
PRUDENCE
F
1894
644 / 4 / 913
CALTON (GLASGOW)

You can purchase a copy of this certificate from Scotlands people website
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: Dundee on Friday 21 June 24 12:27 BST (UK)
1911 census Ireland

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Whitehouse/Bells_Street/191171/

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: Amiraibrahimx on Friday 21 June 24 12:52 BST (UK)
Marriage of Ali and Prudence, her father is Robert MADDEN, deceased.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09720/5526684.pdf

Debra  :)

Thanks Debra !! Do you know how I’d be able to find more information about Robert madden eg birth certificate
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: Amiraibrahimx on Friday 21 June 24 12:54 BST (UK)
Welcome to rootschat

Prudence and Ali are in Cardiff in 1921, it suggests that this is probably her birth registration on Scotlands People

MADDEN
PRUDENCE
F
1894
644 / 4 / 913
CALTON (GLASGOW)

You can purchase a copy of this certificate from Scotlands people website

Thank you! Do they have any information on her parents
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: PaulineJ on Friday 21 June 24 13:30 BST (UK)


You can purchase a copy of this certificate from Scotlands people website

Its down to you to purchase the certificate to reveal any additional information.

Thank you! Do they have any information on her parents
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Title: Re: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 21 June 24 14:29 BST (UK)
Thank you! Do they have any information on her parents

Information here about Scottish birth certificates  :)
https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/statutory-registers/births
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: softly softly on Friday 21 June 24 16:33 BST (UK)
Welcome to rootschat

Prudence and Ali are in Cardiff in 1921, it suggests that this is probably her birth registration on Scotlands People

MADDEN
PRUDENCE
F
1894
644 / 4 / 913
CALTON (GLASGOW)

You can purchase a copy of this certificate from Scotlands people website

Hate working in the dark and had a few credits.

born Illegitimate 12pm 17.12.1894 at 121, Green Street, Calton, Glasgow. Father Hector Madden occ Herbalist and Elizabeth Goudie.

SS
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 21 June 24 16:43 BST (UK)
That is interesting SS,  so possibly the wrong registration though she says she was born in Scotland  ::)
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: Amiraibrahimx on Friday 21 June 24 17:20 BST (UK)
Welcome to rootschat

Prudence and Ali are in Cardiff in 1921, it suggests that this is probably her birth registration on Scotlands People

MADDEN
PRUDENCE
F
1894
644 / 4 / 913
CALTON (GLASGOW)

You can purchase a copy of this certificate from Scotlands people website

Hate working in the dark and had a few credits.

born Illegitimate 12pm 17.12.1894 at 121, Green Street, Calton, Glasgow. Father Hector Madden occ Herbalist and Elizabeth Goudie.

SS
Hi thanks so much! I have managed to find her father under the name Robert Madden as well. This may have been why I was unable to find more information
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: softly softly on Friday 21 June 24 18:09 BST (UK)
Hi thanks so much! I have managed to find her father under the name Robert Madden as well. This may have been why I was unable to find more information.

Do you mean you have found her father with Prudence on a census or what.

SS
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Prudence Hassan and Her Family
Post by: Ashtone on Friday 21 June 24 20:02 BST (UK)
Hector and Elizabeth had another daughter:

Carlotta Madden
Birth  4 Oct 1891
Glasgow, Scotland

1891 census - Robert/Hector and Elizabeth are in Glasgow. His birthplace is Jamaica. Born 1845.