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Title: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: gingerslf on Tuesday 18 June 24 15:10 BST (UK)
BIRTH 2 NOV 1935 • Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

DEATH 4 NOV 2017 • Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Not done any tree stuff for a number of years and I'm struggling to remember what to do/where to go.

I'm looking for parents of the above.

I have a possible mother, Ellen Naylor.

ANY info would be gratefully appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: Comberton on Tuesday 18 June 24 15:57 BST (UK)
There are 8 Boden/Naylor births 1917-1935 Sheffield and a marriage for likely parents in 1916 Sheffield
Image available with free FindMyPast account
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FYORKSHIRE%2FENGLYOR1D_PR-12-7%2F00181&parentid=GBPRS%2FYORKSHIRE%2FMAR%2F202017676%2F1

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:66GG-MK51

Free search of 1921 census
Sheffield
Ernest and Ellen with 3 children
Free search of 1939 Register
Ellen (widowed) with children, Brian will still be redacted as his death was recent.
FamilySearch is free to use, also GRO index, just register and you can do a lot of free searching, especially on FindMyPast. Also purchase individual records from them (FMPast)
Title: Re: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: gingerslf on Tuesday 18 June 24 16:17 BST (UK)
There are 8 Boden/Naylor births 1917-1935 Sheffield and a marriage for likely parents in 1916 Sheffield
Image available with free FindMyPast account
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FYORKSHIRE%2FENGLYOR1D_PR-12-7%2F00181&parentid=GBPRS%2FYORKSHIRE%2FMAR%2F202017676%2F1

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:66GG-MK51

Free search of 1921 census
Sheffield
Ernest and Ellen with 3 children
Free search of 1939 Register
Ellen (widowed) with children, Brian will still be redacted as his death was recent.
FamilySearch is free to use, also GRO index, just register and you can do a lot of free searching, especially on FindMyPast. Also purchase individual records from them (FMPast)

Many thanks for all of that.

Am I right in thinking that 2 Bodens and 2 Naylors were married on the same day? Christmas Day.

Or is the Jessie Judith not Boden but Barden?


Title: Re: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 18 June 24 16:31 BST (UK)
Free BMD index for Dec 1916 Sheffield Marriages has

Catherine B Barton - William H Quaggan

Ellen Naylor - Ernest Boden

the surnames are cross referenced with each other if that helps
Title: Re: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 18 June 24 17:15 BST (UK)
Or is the Jessie Judith not Boden but Barden?

She signs the register as Jessie Judith Barden

Marriages Dec qtr 1916 
Barden    Jessie J       
Naylor    Thomas H W   
Sheffield    9c   978   


The marriage of William Henry Quaggan and Catherine Bertha Barton are on the page prior to Ernest Bodens marriage.

Title: Re: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: MollyC on Tuesday 18 June 24 18:08 BST (UK)
Sheffield is in the WEST Riding

register at: https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/ includes marriages, which are not on the GRO site.  Generally has more flexible searching but does not include age at death before 1866, nor mother's maiden surname before 1912.

Also try exploring http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/

e.g. search Burial Records for Ernest Boden, he was buried in 1926.
Click on "Find Similar in Same Grave" and there is Ellen buried 1986, also another person who may be related.  Various other indexes on this site.
Title: Re: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: gingerslf on Tuesday 18 June 24 18:51 BST (UK)
Thanks for all the very helpful and informative replies.

Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: gingerslf on Tuesday 18 June 24 19:04 BST (UK)
Sheffield is in the WEST Riding

register at: https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/ includes marriages, which are not on the GRO site.  Generally has more flexible searching but does not include age at death before 1866, nor mother's maiden surname before 1912.

Also try exploring http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/

e.g. search Burial Records for Ernest Boden, he was buried in 1926.
Click on "Find Similar in Same Grave" and there is Ellen buried 1986, also another person who may be related.  Various other indexes on this site.

That throws a spanner in my works! ???

Brian BODEN

BIRTH 2 NOV 1935 • Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

DEATH 4 NOV 2017 • Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

I was told that his mother was Ellen Naylor and father was Ernest, but Ernest died 1926 according to this!

Can't find a record to say that she remarried and had another 3 children including Brian!

She out lived him by 60 years!

Title: Re: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: Ashtone on Tuesday 18 June 24 19:16 BST (UK)
Sheffield Daily Telegraph
18 March 1926
Title: Re: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: gingerslf on Tuesday 18 June 24 19:18 BST (UK)
Sheffield Daily Telegraph
18 March 1926

WOW.

How do I view the whole article?

I only see half of it.

Thanks

EDIT:

Done it.
Title: Re: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: Ashtone on Tuesday 18 June 24 19:19 BST (UK)
That's all there is. You need to use the scroll bar (below the newspaper title) to see the rest.



Title: Re: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: Ashtone on Tuesday 18 June 24 19:22 BST (UK)
Here is another snippet, regarding the inquest.
Title: Re: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: MollyC on Tuesday 18 June 24 20:28 BST (UK)
In FreeBMD there is a gap in the Boden/Naylor births between 1925-1933.
Title: Re: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: gingerslf on Tuesday 18 June 24 20:46 BST (UK)
In FreeBMD there is a gap in the Boden/Naylor births between 1925-1933.

Father Ernest died 1926.

Just been told that the last 3 children father's name was Cooper, but they never married.
Title: Re: Brian Boden born Sheffield 1935
Post by: MollyC on Tuesday 18 June 24 22:02 BST (UK)
"Sheffield Daily Telegraph 18 March 1926"

The address is effectively no. 4, court 9, Garden Street.  This map was surveyed 1889, but it is the only edition which gives court numbers.  Court 9 was at the west end of Garden Street, off Broad Lane.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19.0&lat=53.38357&lon=-1.47705&layers=117746211&b=1&o=100

This revision of 1920/21 shows the courts  -  https://maps.nls.uk/view/125651203     (east edge)
but the revision of 1937 shows they had been cleared, so Brian may not have been born there.  The 1939 Register shows Ellen at 403 Hastilar Road, Sheffield, so she had been re-housed in the Manor estate.
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