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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Mummybear1 on Monday 17 June 24 10:13 BST (UK)
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Thomas Joseph Darcy BIRTH 20 FEB 1870 • Grafton, New South Wales, Australia
DEATH 27 FEB • Grafton, New South Wales, Australia 1907
his wife Clara May Olive
just found out he may have marriage another lady
also can someone help point out Thomas's parent name
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The NSW BDM is undergoing maintenance until tomorrow, so can't look up atm.
Findagrave has this Thomas Joseph DARCY born 20 Feb 1870, died 27 Feb 1907 - spouse Julia SCOTT. They married 1892 at Surrey Hills, says he was a bachelor, born Sydney, according to the marriage certificate which is attached.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/251506450/thomas-joseph-darcy
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An obituary just says a widow and 2 sons:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/61432940
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the full marriage certificate is on Ancestry - his parent's are Thomas DARCY and Catherine [...]. Not sure of Catherine's family name, attached here.
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So who Clara may olive in some of family tree by look of the marry Clara so i need to work out if two boy half-brother who their parent
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I can't check these with the NSW BDM, however according to Ancestry marriage records:
Clara May OLIVE married Thomas DARCY at Grafton in 1895.
Clara May DARCY married Frederick SMITH at Grafton in 1907.
Clara May SMITH married Frederick HOPE at Manly in 1920. (Marriage certificate on Ancestry - her parents: George William OLIVE (grazier, dec) and Thurza COLLINS.
Modified to add:
Tricky without the NSW BDM, but I can't see a death for Julia DARCY between 1892 and 1895. Also, the 1892 marriage does say Thomas was born Sydney (not Grafton).
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Also, the 1892 marriage does say Thomas was born Sydney (not Grafton).
There is a birth certificate posted to Ancestry for Thomas DARCY 20 Feb 1870 at Grafton, parents Thomas DARCY and Catherine nee HOULAGHAN (again, hard to read). So I guess this is the same man, not sure why he says born Sydney on his 1892 marriage, or why he was in Sydney.
I'll look at the NSW BDM tomorrow for the children's birth registrations to see which mother is stated.
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Thomas' death certificate names 2 children, Wilfred aged 11 and Harold aged 9. They were registered in 1895 and 1898 as the sons of Thomas and Clara.
Debra :)
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It seems that Julia DARCY nee SCOTT died in 1903 - there is a death notice:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14583010
The NSW BDM has he indexed under Julia DE ARCY , Julia DEARCY, Julia De ARCY (12672/1903) parents Adam A and Betsy, which fits with the 1892 marriage in Sydney.
So were they divorced, separated? Was Thomas a bigamist?
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There is an entry for a Julia SCOTT daughter of Julia DARCY (or SCOTT), died in Female Refuge, Crown St, grand daughter of Allan SCOTT (the same as on the 1892 marriage certicate) on the Dependent Children Register in 1904. Says the child was illegitimate.
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/permalink/f/1ebnd1l/INDEX2323168
Her birth registration:
27383/1903 Julia SCOTT, mother - Julia
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I think the mother's name for Thomas Joseph Darcy is Catherine Hourigan.
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You may be right culbaire. For comparison, here's the name from the birth certificate of her son - she didn't sign and presumably had an accent, so the name appears as the registrar heard.
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plus Thomas Darcy 1833 Liverman, County Tipperary, Ireland
Catherine Mary Hourigan did they have 9 kids
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I think the mother's name for Thomas Joseph Darcy is Catherine Hourigan.
I agree with you on this
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I think the mother's name for Thomas Joseph Darcy is Catherine Hourigan.too
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the full marriage certificate is on Ancestry - his parent's are Thomas DARCY and Catherine [...]. Not sure of Catherine's family name, attached here.
Could please type up all the information that is shown on this certificate. This will be of assistance to everyone who is not on ancestry.
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Also, the 1892 marriage does say Thomas was born Sydney (not Grafton).
There is a birth certificate posted to Ancestry for Thomas DARCY 20 Feb 1870 at Grafton, parents Thomas DARCY and Catherine nee HOULAGHAN (again, hard to read). So I guess this is the same man, not sure why he says born Sydney on his 1892 marriage, or why he was in Sydney.
I'll look at the NSW BDM tomorrow for the children's birth registrations to see which mother is stated.
Does his marriage certificate give Thomas' occupation? Regular ships travelled between Grafton and Sydney.
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Could please type up all the information that is shown on this certificate. This will be of assistance to everyone who is not on ancestry.
I'm not sure that mummybear requires any further information, as she asked for Thomas' parents' names, however here is the information on the certificate:
Marriages Solemnised in the District of Surry Hills, Sydney, in the Colony of New South Wales.
When and where married:
23 November 1892 St Michael's Sydney
Names and surnames of the parties:
Thomas Joseph DARCY Julia SCOTT
Conditions of the parties:
Bachelor Spinster
Birthplace:
Sydney Sydney
Rank or profession:
Gasfitter Private life
Ages:
23 23
Usual place of residence:
Corben Street Surry Hills Corben Street Surry Hills
Father's Christian name and Surname Mother's Christian name and Maiden Surname:
Thomas DARCY Catherine HOURIGAN
Adam Allen SCOTT Elizabeth DAVIS
Married in the Church of St Michael, Sydney according to the rites of the Church of England
both signed
In the presence of us:
William ALLEN Elle RANN [uncertain of this name]
By or before me:
E D MADGWICK Officiating Minister or registrar
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Thank you everyone touch base I try to search for
Wilfred Thomas Darcy Grafton nsw
Harold George Darcy Grafton nsw Australia 1898 year born
On birth certificate website Matching Records found
Believe it maybe Julie Scott mother to boys
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As noted by Debra in reply #7, Wilfred and Harold were registered with parents Thomas and Clara DARCY. :)
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Do you know the registration number of the Birth trying to look at order birth certificate
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Wilfred T DARCY 32464/1895 Grafton (Thomas J, Clara M)
Harold G DARCY 3356/1898 Grafton (Thomas, Clara M)