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Title: Richard HOLLAND bell-hanger
Post by: Jaznjjj on Sunday 16 June 24 01:01 BST (UK)
On the 28th August, 1837 Richard HOLLAND,a widower of full age, married Elizabeth MARDON at Llangyfelach.  He resided at Penllergaer.  I am trying to establish if this is the same Richard HOLLAND born at Ellesmere in Shropshire and who later lived in Shrewsbury.  Both were bell-hangers, both were married to wives named Elizabeth and the timeframe is a reasonable fit. I am asking if there was a HOLLAND family in Glamorganshire who might have produced this Richard HOLLAND?  I am also curious about how common the occupation of bell-hanger was and whether it implied travelling about?  I have not seen the original marriage document so asking if someone has access to this please and whether it provides parents' details.      Regards, Jennifer   
Title: Re: Richard HOLLAND bell-hanger
Post by: Ashtone on Sunday 16 June 24 01:09 BST (UK)
Parents names on 1837 marriage record -

Robert Holland
White Smith

John Nicholson  (Elizabeth Mardon was a widow)
Gardener

Witnesses: David Charles and John Rees
Title: Re: Richard HOLLAND bell-hanger
Post by: Ashtone on Sunday 16 June 24 01:34 BST (UK)
Shrewsbury Chronicle
04 November 1836

Unable to upload snippet at the moment. Richard Holland is in the Court for Relief of Insolvent Debtors.
RH of Shrewsbury - Blacksmith, Whitesmith, Locksmith, and Bellhanger.

Eddowes's Shrewsbury Journal
28 January 1846

Notice to say RH is commencing business in the line of bell-hangining and lock smiths.
RH states he has been in the employment of Mr Alltree upwards of 20 years.
Location - Castle Court, Castle Street.
Title: Re: Richard HOLLAND bell-hanger
Post by: Jaznjjj on Sunday 16 June 24 03:38 BST (UK)
Oh yes!  Father is Robert, a whitesmith.  Lots to follow up now to see if this can be nailed down.  Looks also like possibly he married two different Elizabeths.  I am thinking his occupation may have had him travelling around.  This may put a bit of a kink into what I (and other researchers) thought we knew.  All good.  Will update in due course - and many thanks.  I am descended from Richard's son, Robert HOLLAND, who went to sea and ended up jumping ship in Australia in 1890. Regards, Jaz