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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Fermanagh => Topic started by: monsterworm on Friday 14 June 24 10:01 BST (UK)
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Hi, I'm looking for Thomas McGoldrick born abt 1882 in Co. Fermanagh. Thomas married Mary Donegan 14 nov 1904 in Derrylin RC Church, Lisnaskea and according to the marriage cert his father was John McGoldrick. Has anyone come across a Thomas McGoldrick that could help me get further back? Many thanks.
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No obvious births in Lisnaskea area that match. Closest is an 1885 birth, but father was a Michael. Do you have your Thomas in the 1901 and 1911 census and if yes, do they show him as born in County Fermanagh?
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Could this be him with a County Cavan birth?
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Maguiresbridge/Drumroo/1359241/
or
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Agharillymaud/Carrakelly/1356947/
Closest fit for a birth possibly being:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/47e9d310526709
albeit Goldrick rather than McGoldrick.
Although if this is him in 1911 https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Crum/Dresternan/523297/ it has a County Fermanagh birth noted, albeit with a possible Cavan link in that 2 children were born there.
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I found him and his family in the 1911 census which states he was born in Co. Fermanagh, the 2 eldest kids were born in Co. Cavan. Not yet managed to find a definite in 1901.
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Thomas married Mary Donegan 14 nov 1904 in Derrylin RC Church, Lisnaskea and according to the marriage cert his father was John McGoldrick.
Marriage in Knockninny RC Church, the townland of which was 5-6 km north of Derrylin. Thomas a labourer living in the townland of Kilnakelly [sic].
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1904/10217/5719105.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/fermanagh/knockninny/kinawley/drummully/kinakelly/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2920457#map=13/54.2141/-7.5751
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I found him and his family in the 1911 census which states he was born in Co. Fermanagh, the 2 eldest kids were born in Co. Cavan.
House 12 in Dresternan (Crum, Fermanagh)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Crum/Dresternan/523297/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002350249/
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Could this be him with a County Cavanagh birth?
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Maguiresbridge/Drumroo/1359241/
I had this one a a possibilty, thanks for looking
Although if this is him in 1911 https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Crum/Dresternan/523297/ it has a County Fermanagh birth noted, albeit with a possible Cavan link in that 2 daughters were born there.
Yes, this is him and his family
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Could this be him with a County Cavanagh birth?
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Maguiresbridge/Drumroo/1359241/
I had this one a a possibilty, thanks for looking
Although if this is him in 1911 https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Crum/Dresternan/523297/ it has a County Fermanagh birth noted, albeit with a possible Cavan link in that 2 daughters were born there.
Yes, this is him and his family
Eldest child Bridget born 1905 at Kilconny townland on the western outskirts of Belturbet, Co Cavan.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01760/1693451.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/loughtee-lower/drumlane/kilconny/
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Yes, this is him and his family
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Eldest child Bridget born 1905 at Kilconny townland on the western outskirts of Belturbet, Co Cavan.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01760/1693451.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/loughtee-lower/drumlane/kilconny/
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Thank you for your help
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Have you got Mary Donegan in 1901?
I hoped finding her would lead to Thomas but no luck so far.
I found this girl Maria Doonegan born 1883 to Hugh and Anne McHugh
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02711/1998071.pdf
Hugh and Anne in 1911, can't find them in 1901
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Aghakellymaude/Derryvrane/522913/
but wondered if this could be their daughter
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Agharillymaud/Drumbrughas/1356968/
Checking out the general area for McGoldricks let me to this woman
1911
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Aghakellymaude/Drumroosk/522927/
1901
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Agharillymaud/Drumroosk/1356986/
Her daughter Margaret's marriage does give Kate's husband as John
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10561/5847180.pdf
and this death for John
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05820/4647763.pdf
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Hugh and Ann Doonigan in 1901, Mary not at home tho
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Drummully/Drummully/1357811/
A possible Thomas although the census says birth Co.Cavan, a couple of his kids were born there tho...
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Agharillymaud/Carrakelly/1356947/
Looks to be near the Mary you found?
I found a possible death for Thomas on the GRONI 23rd Dec 1940 Enniskillen District, he was 57. Informant was Rose West, sister in law. I'll do some more digging on that and Kate and John tonight.
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Another possible
Number 1861 in 1879.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634880#page/132/mode/1up
The surname is difficult to read but I think it might be McGoldrick
John and Kate’s son Francis is a few pages down number 1937
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... I found this girl Maria Doonegan born 1883 to Hugh and Anne McHugh
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02711/1998071.pdf
Good find, because a transcript of the church record for that 1904 marriage that I can see, identifies the parents for each party as:
- John McGoldrick and Bridget Darey;
- Hugh Doonegan and Anne McHugh.
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... a transcript of the church record of that 1904 marriage that I can see, identifies the parents for each party as:
- John McGoldrick and Bridget Darey;
- Hugh Doonegan and Anne McHugh.
Here's a possibility... a son Thomas born in 1879 to a John Magoldrick and Bridget Darcy:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02917/2068590.pdf
Stated birth location / parent's residence was Dunglave in Cavan, just a couple or so miles from the county border with Fermanagh:
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/tullyhaw/kinawley/tircahan/dunglave/
I can see several other children born to this couple.
Added: Even though a couple of details are inconsistent, might the above birth be Sinann's baptism at reply #11? The stated location of Tircahan in that baptism record is VERY close to Dunglave:
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/tullyhaw/kinawley/tircahan/tircahan/
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Need to look again but fairly sure I saw John and Bridget scrolling through that register.
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I haven't checked the registers, but transcripts suggest a child Bridget in 1863 (26 April), Pat in 1865 (16 January), John in 1866 (9 January), Ellen in 1868 (7 June), James in 1871 (1 October), Catherine in 1874 (23 January), and Edward in 1876 (28 May).
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Yep here’s Edward
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634880#page/117/mode/1up
The date of birth on the Thomas baptism with mother as Ellen is the same as the Cvil cert with the mother as Bridget. Could have been a mix up with the witness Ellen, perhaps.
Delighted to see Mary’s parents are Doonegan and McHugh, just had a gut feeling about her.
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Yep here’s Edward
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634880#page/117/mode/1up
Edward went on to marry a Catherine McBrien in Ballinasloe, Co. Galway in May 1911, he was a servant there, working as a bank porter:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09960/5621306.pdf
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Ballinasloe_Urban/Main_Street/448388/
I can be pretty sure it's him, because again a transcript of the church record of that marriage shows both parents for each party - his recorded as John McGoldrick of Swanlinbar, Co. Cavan and Bridget Darcy, hers as Michael McBrien of Swanlinbar, Co. Cavan and Margaret Murray.
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I haven't checked the registers, but transcripts suggest a child Bridget in 1863 (26 April), Pat in 1865 (16 January), John in 1866 (9 January), Ellen in 1868 (7 June), James in 1871 (1 October), Catherine in 1874 (23 January), and Edward in 1876 (28 May).
I was told that Thomas had siblings Margaret, Tessie, Eddie, Bill and Jimmy at least. No dates were given and I've looked all evening but haven't managed to unearth any you haven't listed.
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... I found this girl Maria Doonegan born 1883 to Hugh and Anne McHugh
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02711/1998071.pdf
Good find, because a transcript of the church record for that 1904 marriage that I can see, identifies the parents for each party as:
- John McGoldrick and Bridget Darey;
- Hugh Doonegan and Anne McHugh.
Hi where is the marriage record that is naming Thomas’s mother as Bridget Darcey?
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Hi, I'm looking for Thomas McGoldrick born abt 1882 in Co. Fermanagh. Thomas married Mary Donegan 14 nov 1904 in Derrylin RC Church, Lisnaskea and according to the marriage cert his father was John McGoldrick. Has anyone come across a Thomas McGoldrick that could help me get further back? Many thanks.
Around 2 years ago I tried to find Thomas’s grave and had no luck, even after emailing the parish offices, they had no record of his grave - the only Thomas McGoldrick was from Doon which I knew wasn’t him. My grandfather mentioned that he was buried in an unmarked grave and his wife Mary was buried in a different grave in Maguiresbridge. Then last year I decided to have another look for his grave and now he had a headstone (which looked very new), he’s buried in Derrylin with baby daughter Ellen and the Donegan family. I’m unsure who added the headstone or why he originally did not have one.
https://www.irishgraveyards.ie/plot?plotno=178A&yardid=350§ion=A
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... Hi where is the marriage record that is naming Thomas’s mother as Bridget Darcey?
It's a transcription on the website 'RootsIreland', her surname transcribed as 'Darey'.