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Title: Anne Phillips arrived NSW 16 Jun 1858 on the vessel Castilian
Post by: dragonT on Tuesday 11 June 24 17:14 BST (UK)
Anne, the daughter of Robert Thomas Phillips and Ellin (nee) Evans, was baptised at Llanberis, Caernarvonshire on 13 Mar 1836. Her illegitimate son John was baptised 24 Oct 1853, also at Llanberis.
John was raised by his grandparents, Anne travelled alone to Australia.

I can find no records for Anne after her arrival in Australia can anyone help? I'm particularly interested in finding any of her descendants.
Title: Re: Anne Phillips arrived NSW 16 Jun 1858 on the vessel Castilian
Post by: Neale1961 on Tuesday 11 June 24 22:38 BST (UK)
You can search for births, deaths, marriages in NSW here.
https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search?4

If she moved to another state, you would search in that state.
Title: Re: Anne Phillips arrived NSW 16 Jun 1858 on the vessel Castilian
Post by: cupoflife on Wednesday 12 June 24 00:40 BST (UK)
Possible NSW marriage? 20/10/1858
804/1858 Anne PHILLIPS and John GOODWIN; Sydney

Possible death?
2802/1892 Anne GOODWIN; UNKNOWN; UNKNOWN; BATHURST

NSW birth?
9371/1866 Robert GOODWIN; JOHN; ANNE; HARTLEY
Title: Re: Anne Phillips arrived NSW 16 Jun 1858 on the vessel Castilian
Post by: Dundee on Wednesday 12 June 24 01:07 BST (UK)
They went to Victoria, John died and Ann remarried.  Thought we might let dragonT have a crack first.

https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Anne Phillips arrived NSW 16 Jun 1858 on the vessel Castilian
Post by: DebNZ on Wednesday 12 June 24 04:22 BST (UK)
I am also looking for an Anne Phillips - can't find her before she married James Watson in 1866 (of full age) in Auckland, New Zealand.

I wonder if this is "your" Anne too.
Title: Re: Anne Phillips arrived NSW 16 Jun 1858 on the vessel Castilian
Post by: dragonT on Wednesday 12 June 24 15:29 BST (UK)
Many thanks for all replies - very helpful.

DebNZ: Given what follows it seems 'my' Anne is different.

cupoflife: The marriage to John Goodwin in 1858 and the birth of Robert Goodwin in 1866 could well refer to 'my' Anne Phillips. Could there be any supporting evidence available other than through buying copy certificates? Where does the marriage date - 20/10/1858 - come from?

Debra/Dundee: From Victoria records I see that John Goodwin died in 1873 aged 38, he was born FLIN (which means?) and his father was Edward. Very helpfully it gives his spouse as Ann Phillips.
Anne Goodwin then marries Alfred Quinton in Victoria in 1874. (No other details)
Ann Quinton died Melb Hosp in 1884 age 48. Her father's name of Robert Phillips is useful supporting evidence.
Find a Grave does not seem to have any of these burials.

Sadly, there is a death (6587/1874) of Robert Goodwin age 8 in Victoria records. He has father John and mother Ann Phillips.
Title: Re: Anne Phillips arrived NSW 16 Jun 1858 on the vessel Castilian
Post by: cupoflife on Thursday 13 June 24 08:36 BST (UK)
Just a matter of narrowing down the date by year, then by month, then by week within that month  and further narrow down narrow down by day.
Title: Re: Anne Phillips arrived NSW 16 Jun 1858 on the vessel Castilian
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 13 June 24 10:43 BST (UK)
he was born FLIN (which means?)
Possibly Flinders, a town in Victoria.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flinders,_Victoria


I think this may an item about the death of John GOODWIN in 1873 at Watson's Freehold Mine:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/265388782

A couple of items  raising money for his widow and family:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/265389221 (1st column, near the middle)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/197103131  (1st column, 4th paragraph)
Title: Re: Anne Phillips arrived NSW 16 Jun 1858 on the vessel Castilian
Post by: Dundee on Thursday 13 June 24 11:01 BST (UK)
The best value for money would be her second marriage certificate to QUINTON. It should give an age, place of birth, and the names of both her parents.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Anne Phillips arrived NSW 16 Jun 1858 on the vessel Castilian
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 13 June 24 11:01 BST (UK)
There are a number of births in Victoria to John GOODWIN and Ann PHILLIPS - did you search for them?
Title: Re: Anne Phillips arrived NSW 16 Jun 1858 on the vessel Castilian
Post by: dragonT on Thursday 13 June 24 15:44 BST (UK)
Thanks maddys52, I found the newspaper cuttings very interesting.
Yes, I found the Goodwin births in Victoria yesterday and have been adding them to my tree. Ann Phillips also had a son with her second husband Joseph Quinlan.

There are a couple of public trees on Ancestry with some information on Ann Phillips' husbands and children but they are not aware of her origins in Llanberis.
I have also found that I have a DNA match with an Australian and Ann Phillips is her 2x (or 3x) GGM.
Title: Re: Anne Phillips arrived NSW 16 Jun 1858 on the vessel Castilian
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 14 June 24 04:04 BST (UK)
The Inquest documents (11 pages) for John Goodwin are available online at PROV:

https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/EF280856-F1BA-11E9-AE98-1B0436CC06A8?image=1