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Title: birth and marriage
Post by: silver cloud on Monday 10 June 24 13:29 BST (UK)
Hello everyone
trying to track down a marriage between a Francis Bentley and a Margaret or (Mary as she was known) in the Middlesbrough area. I dont have much to go on hence the ? I have tried searching on Ancestry. Their son Henry was born in 1933 and on his marriage certificate it states Francis was a merchant seaman but I cant find anything on him neither, Francis was deceased at the time of sons marriage thats all ive got.
Thanks Kim
Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: PaulineJ on Monday 10 June 24 13:38 BST (UK)
Buy the 1933birth certificate.  Is the 1933 child redacted in 1939?
Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 10 June 24 13:39 BST (UK)
Is the son born 1933 still alive, if so, his name should not be mentioned, due to rootschat policy of not naming living people.
If you use FreeBMD you should be able to see the maiden name of the son's mother.
Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 10 June 24 13:45 BST (UK)
Is Henry the same Henry Bentley whose birth was recorded in Middlesbrough RD in June quarter 1933?  If so then mother's maiden name is given as Jones.
Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 10 June 24 13:47 BST (UK)
Free BMD shows an Ethel Ann Bentley b 1921 with mother's maiden name Jones in Middlesbrough. Marriage might be around 1920.
Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 10 June 24 13:59 BST (UK)
I think Francis / Frank Bentley might have had a sister also called Ethel, who married Edgar Hopkinson Schofield. If so their father was Charles Bentley
Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: softly softly on Monday 10 June 24 14:16 BST (UK)
Believe son died 2002 Bradford with dob 2.3.1933.

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Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: softly softly on Monday 10 June 24 14:27 BST (UK)
Free BMD shows an Ethel Ann Bentley b 1921 with mother's maiden name Jones in Middlesbrough. Marriage might be around 1920.

Does appear on last census with a mother Margaret

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Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: softly softly on Monday 10 June 24 14:57 BST (UK)
62 Thrush Road, Redcar, Redcar M.B., Yorkshire (North Riding), England

Harry probably redacted.

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Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 10 June 24 15:00 BST (UK)
62 Thrush Road, Redcar, Redcar M.B., Yorkshire (North Riding), England

Harry probably redacted.

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Good find!
Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 10 June 24 15:06 BST (UK)
There's a probate of a Francis Bentley who died on 13 June 1934, residence 64 St Pauls Road, Middlesbrough, to Margaret Bentley widow
Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 10 June 24 15:31 BST (UK)
Francis does seem to be quite bit older than Margaret. Maybe they never married because he was already married.
Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: softly softly on Monday 10 June 24 15:35 BST (UK)
LizzieL, just working on Francis but still putting together details but so far,

1901 census ref 4574 34 6. Look closely at his birthplace, it matches that of his brother Frank who appears with Ethel Ann in 1921.

Parents John C Bentley & Ann

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Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 10 June 24 15:38 BST (UK)
I got the father's name of Charles from a newspaper report of Ethel Bentley / Shields to Edgar H Schofield in 1911, but could be actually John Charles. Ethel is 4th daughter. In 1891 Francis is 16 and crew on a ship somewhere.
Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: softly softly on Monday 10 June 24 15:54 BST (UK)
 Pretty sure that Francis is recorded as Frank in 1881 census (4798 34 6 ). MMN Thompson as per siblings.

BENTLEY, ANN       THOMPSON 
GRO Reference: 1872  S Quarter in KNARESBROUGH  Volume 09A  Page 100

BENTLEY, WALTER       THOMPSON 
GRO Reference: 1869  D Quarter in PEMBROKE  Volume 11A  Page 727

BENTLEY, VIVIAN       THOMPSON  (recorded as Male in 1881 census)
GRO Reference: 1878  S Quarter in BRIDLINGTON  Volume 09D  Page 349

Cannot find his gro birth entry though

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Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: silver cloud on Monday 10 June 24 16:03 BST (UK)
thank you all for your help ill look into the Ann (sister connection)and see what I can find
thanks again.
Kim
Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: softly softly on Monday 10 June 24 16:06 BST (UK)
Francis baptism.

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Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: softly softly on Monday 10 June 24 16:13 BST (UK)
Death of Margaret Bentley

Margaret Bentley age 75
Birth Date   3 Oct 1898
Sep qtr 1974
Haverfordwest RD
Volume   24
Page   1805

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Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: silver cloud on Monday 10 June 24 17:33 BST (UK)
Hi Lizzie
that's the address I have for Henrys birth Pauls road, and his mothers maiden name is Jones and it states his farther was a delegate for Seamans union.
Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: silver cloud on Monday 10 June 24 17:35 BST (UK)
the son henry as passed away so I'm not breaking rules.
kim
Title: Re: birth and marriage
Post by: silver cloud on Monday 10 June 24 17:44 BST (UK)
Well done SS will check them out and order some certificates.
Thanks again Kim