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Title: NZ adoption approx 1871
Post by: pergamond on Saturday 08 June 24 05:34 BST (UK)
Hi, I'm not sure if this query should be here or in the DNA section.

Someone has contacted me through Ancestry DNA because they match (not very strongly) with myself and ten others that are in my family tree.

Her great-grandfather was adopted in South Otago around 1871. Is there any way to find out who his birth parents might be? She can't find a birth record on dia for his adopted name.

Hoping someone might be able to help, as I'm not sure where to go from here. Thanks  :)
Title: Re: NZ adoption approx 1871
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 08 June 24 06:03 BST (UK)
Just incase… Have they tried searching NZ BDMs just by his forenames?  (Put a full-stop up in the surname field)
Hoping his names are more distinctive than John, William etc!
Title: Re: NZ adoption approx 1871
Post by: pergamond on Saturday 08 June 24 06:24 BST (UK)
Thank you so much.I didn't know that was possible. I have one possibility with NR by the father's name, and several hundred others. I'll start with the NR to check the location  :)
Title: Re: NZ adoption approx 1871
Post by: pergamond on Saturday 08 June 24 06:39 BST (UK)
Is there a way to check the location without ordering the printouts? Do genealogical groups have access to those records?
Title: Re: NZ adoption approx 1871
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 08 June 24 06:42 BST (UK)
Is there a way to check the location without ordering the printouts? Do genealogical groups have access to those records?

Yes there is.  I am not completely conversant with it.  But if genealogy group has the microfiche, there are index books to use to get the location.  I am not sure if the books work with the online numbers.  Hopefully someone like Lucy2 will be on later and can tell you for sure.

Title: Re: NZ adoption approx 1871
Post by: pergamond on Saturday 08 June 24 06:51 BST (UK)
Thanks so much. I look forward to hearing from her.
Title: Re: NZ adoption approx 1871
Post by: TwiggyTree on Saturday 08 June 24 07:31 BST (UK)
To the best of my knowledge, mckha489 you are correct.

It is only the (birth or death) microfiche that are referenced in the Index books that a library or research centre may have to give you a location of the event.
Title: Re: NZ adoption approx 1871
Post by: wivenhoe on Saturday 08 June 24 13:05 BST (UK)


"Her great-grandfather was adopted in South Otago around 1871."

What is the source of this information?

If the enquirer has no birth record, what is the earliest evidence that the great-grandfather existed?   

Is it his name on a marriage  certificate?.  If so, start with that document....everything word on the document?
Title: Re: NZ adoption approx 1871
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 09 June 24 01:28 BST (UK)
To the best of my knowledge, mckha489 you are correct.

It is only the (birth or death) microfiche that are referenced in the Index books that a library or research centre may have to give you a location of the event.

I have confirmed this is the case.
I think most Nz genealogy branches have the fiche & index books.
If you are not a member, see the Nz Soc of genealogists website to find your nearest branch. Many have open research days , they would encourage you to join, it isn’t compulsory, but a good move nevertheless  ;D

https://genealogy.org.nz/
Title: Re: NZ adoption approx 1871
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 09 June 24 02:19 BST (UK)
Oh DRAT !!!   ;D     

I had just typed a lengthy explanation re: the "District Keys" (index books referred to earlier by mckha) ... hit a wrong button and lost the whole lot !!   So, glad you've swung by again mckha and clarified the situation.   ;D

To add .... the "District Keys" are designed to work only with the microfiche-formatted NZ Birth and Death records ...  and these can be found also in (usually) larger libraries and some other repositories.
[Note that the registration numbers appearing at the NZ BDM website for these events, are not compatible with the District Keys.   NZ BMD allocated new numbers  ::) to all their records at the time these went online. ]

[   *  ancestry.com (subscription) records for NZ Births and Deaths, show registration places for events but only from about 1873-74 onwards.    Important to note also -- that the registration place isn't necessarily the same as the actual place of birth or death (- a printout version of the registration record, is the best means of verification). ]

   ~  Lu

Title: Re: NZ adoption approx 1871
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 09 June 24 02:26 BST (UK)
Is there a way to check the location without ordering the printouts?

Hi pergamond

I'm at my local library tomorrow (Monday) and happy to check microfiche/district keys for you.

Will of course need name of person you seek (and any other helpful information you hold).


   ~  Lu
Title: Re: NZ adoption approx 1871
Post by: pergamond on Sunday 09 June 24 09:52 BST (UK)
Thank you all so much for your help with this. Lu, I will PM you.
Title: Re: NZ adoption approx 1871
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 11 June 24 12:32 BST (UK)
Information from microfiche record, sent by PM.
   ~  Lu
Title: Re: NZ adoption approx 1871
Post by: pergamond on Tuesday 11 June 24 21:07 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help, Lu.