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Title: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: alison2763 on Tuesday 04 June 24 04:26 BST (UK)
Hello,
I'm looking for the Birth of Edgar Lloyd HOWLETT born 29.12.1924. I believe in Gurnsey.
I am looking for his parents.
The information I have comes from his Immigration papers to Australia in 1950.
He also states that he was a Stoker Mechanic - Service number 772759 on the HMS Victory- discharged 30.11.1947. I would be interested in finding his Service Record too.
He was a Market Gardener in Gurnsey until 1949. The last address he worked was Maison de Bas  Castel Gurnsey for Mr. A. Rousell.
Thanks in advance for any information.
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 04 June 24 04:54 BST (UK)
2 Children - tree owner doesn't know the 2 childrens names - maybe make a note for future reference

https://gw.geneanet.org/possy?n=howlett&oc=&p=edward+alexander
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ADDED I have looked at 22 trees of Howlett in Guernsey and Edward Alexander appears the only one the right age to be a possible dad for Edgar

https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?country__0__=GBR&country__1__=&country__2__=&country__3__=&country__4__=&exact_day=&exact_month=&exact_year=&from=&go=1&ignore_each_patronyme=&ignore_each_prenom=&nom=HOWLETT&page=1&place__0__=&place__1__=&place__2__=&place__3__=&place__4__=&prenom=&prenom_operateur=or&region__0__=CHI&region__1__=&region__2__=&region__3__=&region__4__=&sexe=&size=10&subregion__0__=&subregion__1__=&subregion__2__=&subregion__3__=&subregion__4__=&to=&type_periode=between&zonegeo__0__=Channel+Islands,+United+Kingdom&zonegeo__1__=&zonegeo__2__=&zonegeo__3__=&zonegeo__4__=
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 04 June 24 04:57 BST (UK)
if Edgar had children do you know their names - maybe I can find a tree for one of them ???
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 04 June 24 05:14 BST (UK)
If Edgar was only born 1924 & single when he arrived in Australia in 1950 - any children are likely to still be alive
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: alison2763 on Tuesday 04 June 24 05:32 BST (UK)
Edgar had one child- a son who is still alive in Australia. It is this son that I am looking for information for. He knows nothing about his father as his parents separated when he was about 18 months old. He did marry in Australia in 1961 to Rose CROTHERS who is deceased.
I have a tree on Ancestry.
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 04 June 24 05:36 BST (UK)
Is there any parental info on his marriage cert?
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: alison2763 on Tuesday 04 June 24 05:42 BST (UK)
I don't have the Marriage Certificate. I have suggested that the son purchase it.
It may have the parents names on it.
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 04 June 24 05:46 BST (UK)
Will post in a few minutes but he must have returned to England at some time between 1950 - 1957 as there is another outgoing record for him & another possible one in 1946

He was b 29.12.1923 according to findagrave & one passenger list
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: alison2763 on Tuesday 04 June 24 05:48 BST (UK)
I have just ordered the Marriage Certificate, The suspense is killing me  ;D
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: alison2763 on Tuesday 04 June 24 05:53 BST (UK)
Just got the Marriage Certificate.
Father: Edgar Alfred HOWLETT
Mother: Emma Mary GILES

Birthplace: Orangeville, St Peter, Port Guernsey, Channel Islands.

Thank you all for your help  :)
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 04 June 24 06:07 BST (UK)
His father was b 1900 & is on the Channel Islands 1911 with his parents

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/157283:2355

If you can’t open the link let me know
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: Neale1961 on Tuesday 04 June 24 06:11 BST (UK)
Edgar Alfred Howlett born 20 Feb 1900, Guernsey
Parents Robert Howlett and Wilhelmina Clara Grieve
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: alison2763 on Tuesday 04 June 24 06:13 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your help. It looks like I'm good with the HOWLETT family now.
Now looking for information on Emma Mary GILES- his mother.
Thank you all so much  ;D
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 04 June 24 08:37 BST (UK)
1901 census.  Robert must have died between 1901 & 1911

www.rootschat.com/links/01t81/

Edgar Alfred was b 3.11.1899

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/380890:60522

An Emma Mary Ann Giles was born March qtr 1900 Poplar (London) mmn Harman but she married in England & can be followed via censuses etc so can be discounted


Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Tuesday 04 June 24 19:42 BST (UK)
1921 census free search suggests Emma b 1902, Vale, Guernsey
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Tuesday 04 June 24 19:46 BST (UK)
Think this might be her in 1911 - her French name anglicised on the marriage cert?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7JW-LQM
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: Neale1961 on Tuesday 04 June 24 23:14 BST (UK)
That looks promising Mabel
The surname in earlier census appears as GILLES


1891 census Guernsey vale
August P GILLES 28 Carter, born Gauferville? France
Maria GILLES 28, born Gemmenich France
Daughter Augustine C GILLES 4 born Gurnsey


1901 census Guernsey vale
August P GILLES 38 Carter in stone trade, born France
Seraphina GILLES 38 wife, dressmaker, born France
Daughter Augustina GILLES 15 born Guernsey vale, servant out of employment
Daughter Constance GILLES 17 born France, ditto
Grandson Frank Gfuey? 13 stone quarry man born France
Son Clement GILLES 8 born Guernsey vale


Could be birth record for Emma in 1902
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGYP-59G
Title: Re: Edgar Lloyd Howlett
Post by: alison2763 on Tuesday 04 June 24 23:57 BST (UK)
Thanks Carole, Mabel and Neale. I will follow these leads up  ;D