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Title: GRO British Forces births overseas - ordering a cert?
Post by: Lisajb on Saturday 01 June 24 13:52 BST (UK)
What reference do you use to order a certificate, for a birth in the British Armed Forces Overseas Births and Baptisms index.

My daughter is getting married next year and her fiancé was born in the Philippines. He holds a British passport, which shows his place of birth as Philippines.

I’ve found the entry in FindMyPast which helpfully lets me see an image, which gives a type (C/HC), page and a DOB (month).

He’s hoping his mother has a copy but if not and he needs to order one, what reference is he supposed to give the GRO?

Thanks
Lisa
Title: Re: GRO British Forces births overseas - ordering a cert?
Post by: Comberton on Saturday 01 June 24 13:56 BST (UK)
Is this any help? (from GRO FAQ)

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/images/CG6_1.pdf
Title: Re: GRO British Forces births overseas - ordering a cert?
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 01 June 24 14:08 BST (UK)
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Select "Place an order" (menu on right-hand side)
Select "event registered outside UK"
Select Birth
Enter year of registration
Enter the GRO Reference
Complete the form.
Title: Re: GRO British Forces births overseas - ordering a cert?
Post by: Lisajb on Saturday 01 June 24 14:13 BST (UK)
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Select "Place an order" (menu on right-hand side)
Select "event registered outside UK"
Select Birth
Enter year of registration
Enter the GRO Reference
Complete the form.

Just no idea what the reference is, even have looked at the image. Stumped.
Title: Re: GRO British Forces births overseas - ordering a cert?
Post by: Lisajb on Saturday 01 June 24 14:16 BST (UK)
And “ nationality at birth” - whose would he take, his father, a British National, or his mother, a Philippines National?
Title: Re: GRO British Forces births overseas - ordering a cert?
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 01 June 24 14:19 BST (UK)

How can the event be identified?
I know the GRO Index Reference
I want GRO to search for the registration and will provide details to identify it
(see If I don't have the index reference what will happen?)

Always the father's nationality, I think.
Title: Re: GRO British Forces births overseas - ordering a cert?
Post by: Lisajb on Saturday 01 June 24 14:23 BST (UK)

How can the event be identified?
I know the GRO Index Reference
I want GRO to search for the registration and will provide details to identify it
(see If I don't have the index reference what will happen?)

Always the father's nationality, I think.

Yes, that would make sense.
Title: Re: GRO British Forces births overseas - ordering a cert?
Post by: iolaus on Thursday 06 June 24 07:15 BST (UK)
And “ nationality at birth” - whose would he take, his father, a British National, or his mother, a Philippines National?

He may have both from birth

I was born in Germany as my father was in the forces and have British nationality from birth, but my mother wasn't German so I don't get both

The Phillipines have if you were born there and ONE of your parents was a Philippine National (from 1973) you have Philippine nationality from birth
Title: Re: GRO British Forces births overseas - ordering a cert?
Post by: lambre on Thursday 27 June 24 17:42 BST (UK)
This might be a red herring or might save some unnecessary searching : trying to find my father's birth certificate in India 1900, I finally had advice from a very helpful person in the British Library where the India Offfice records
Title: Re: GRO British Forces births overseas - ordering a cert?
Post by: lambre on Thursday 27 June 24 17:48 BST (UK)
My message about birth certificates in India 1900 was swept away befopre I had finished writing. The British Library holds the India Office records, and after searching for ages for my father's birth registration, a very helpful person there told me that at that date there were no birth certificates, only baptismal certificates.

lambre
Title: Re: GRO British Forces births overseas - ordering a cert?
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 29 June 24 17:59 BST (UK)
My message about birth certificates in India 1900 was swept away befopre I had finished writing. The British Library holds the India Office records, and after searching for ages for my father's birth registration, a very helpful person there told me that at that date there were no birth certificates, only baptismal certificates.

lambre

Only helpful if you live in London!?
Title: Re: GRO British Forces births overseas - ordering a cert?
Post by: lambre on Sunday 30 June 24 11:02 BST (UK)
Sorry, I should have made it clear that this search was conducted entirely by Internet/telephone. The helpful person I found answered when I phoned and a copy of my father's baptismal certificate was emailed to me.
lambre