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Title: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: old bones on Wednesday 29 May 24 03:00 BST (UK)
I am trying to help my brother with his tree which he has put on familysearch.  Basically he has an extra generation appearing, which if we could delete, he would have it right.  Another option would be to work backwards and delete the extra generation that way, but you dont seem to be able to do that.  An interesting complication is the extra generation has the sister of the bloke Thomas, down as marrying his wife Jane!  I am new to the site but I have got it correct on mine, but what appears on his is all wrong.  This is one huge headache, so if anyone has any expert advice, I would be very appreciative.
Title: Re: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: martin hooper on Wednesday 29 May 24 11:36 BST (UK)
Hello


I'm not an expert on familysearch but are you aware that the tree on there is not your own tree but it is accessible to everybody and anybody? It's a single massive tree. As I understand it. Having said that I don't know why it should look different for you and your brother.

I expect someone who knows familysearch better than me will be along soon to help.

Martin
Title: Re: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 29 May 24 12:10 BST (UK)
I don't have a tree on Familysearch but as I sometimes search for people I can't find on other sites, every now and again I get sent links to family trees that are on Familysearch.  I had 3 yesterday, 2 of men with the same name as my uncle but those men were from S.Africa and I'd never heard of the ancestors either, so obviously just someone the same name.  The third one had details of my uncle and his parents etc. but his date of birth was wrong.  He was born 1910, not 1911 as shown and was baptised in 1912 (along with my father and his twin sister who were born in 1912).  I don't know how people can get things so wrong, especially dates in fairly recent history when birth certificates and baptismal records are easily available. and others who copy will copy wrong information too.
Title: Re: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 29 May 24 12:28 BST (UK)
I remember, some years ago now, when I was doing some research at a local LDS location, that someone was being helped to upload their family tree.  They were being supervised by a church member.  At one stage the tree owner made the comment "I'm not 100% sure I've got the right husband."  The response was "It doesn't matter."   :o :-X
Title: Re: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: Biggles50 on Wednesday 29 May 24 14:12 BST (UK)
As you should gather from the responses, familysearch is not the best place for building a family tree.

I found my family tree there which was totally wrong.

Best advice is take out a subscription to Ancestry or Find My Past.

Then when the tree has been built as large and as detailed as required then buy software such as Roots Magic or Family Tree Maker then download all the tree and its media to a new project in the software.
Title: Re: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: old bones on Thursday 30 May 24 11:00 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for your comments, and yes Biggles, he does have an ancestry tree, but I think he puts details on familysearch as they often link you to famous people which gives a bit of a buzz.  I will pass all this on to him.  Maybe eventually someone will come along who will change it all for him and he won't have to do a thing!
Title: Re: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: garden genie on Thursday 30 May 24 11:46 BST (UK)
But surely the whole point of the trees at Familysearch is that anyone can edit them? If you and your brother both have trees there then it is supposed to be easy for you to correct his. (without his permission) Then someone else can come along and combine them into one tree because they are obviously the same people. I don't know if it really is as easy as they make out, and for large trees I can see people not bothering, but you often hear of individuals being wrongly(or not) changed. So, for example LizzieW should be able to go to the tree with her uncle on it and correct the date of birth. But there will be nothing to stop someone else changing it back either if they don't agree with her reason for changing it.
Title: Re: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: Biggles50 on Thursday 30 May 24 13:25 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for your comments, and yes Biggles, he does have an ancestry tree, but I think he puts details on familysearch as they often link you to famous people which gives a bit of a buzz.  I will pass all this on to him.  Maybe eventually someone will come along who will change it all for him and he won't have to do a thing!

Yes, I got a link from me to The King.

No not Charles

The real King

Elvis
Title: Re: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: Ronda231 on Thursday 30 May 24 18:07 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for your comments, and yes Biggles, he does have an ancestry tree, but I think he puts details on familysearch as they often link you to famous people which gives a bit of a buzz.  I will pass all this on to him.  Maybe eventually someone will come along who will change it all for him and he won't have to do a thing!

Hi Old Bones, If you can give me the familysearch ID reference numbers for the offending people/generations I will have a look at it, tidy it up, and see if there are any obvious anomalies.

Basically Familysearch works with records/sources linked to people, and anyone with valid source material shouldn't be deleted, they can often be re-arranged - provided this doesn't contradict the source material.

Best Regards
Title: Re: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: Talacharn on Friday 31 May 24 11:09 BST (UK)
I struggle with Family Search. There is a tree that claims my great-grandmother married a Thomas Williams, which is correct, but the wrong Thomas Williams and over 40 miles away from where she actually married. Then they emigrated to USA. She is buried in Laugharne Churchyard, with her husband. I have left notes but nothing has changed. It seems some, probably volunteers linked to Family Search, are actively creating ‘possible’ trees from basic census information and taking a stab at making some connection; so others will correct and/or add information. Another issue is Llanmiloe and Llandeilo. When searching I am offered Llanmiloe which is of interest, but when reading the record it is Llandeilo some 30 miles away, though still in Carmarthenshire. Family Search does not seem to allow any way of contacting them to highlight issues, or I have not found a way. Because of the issues experienced, I will not place my tree on Family Search.
Title: Re: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: old bones on Friday 31 May 24 14:56 BST (UK)
Thanks, Rhonda for your kind offer.  I will contact him when I am able, and ask him.  It may be a little while before I get back to it as I have to travel away for a funeral.
Title: Re: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: garngad on Friday 05 July 24 09:27 BST (UK)
Hi I use familysearch as well as Ancestry, I really like familysearch as it is totally free and does have some good information but as it is all public anyone can change or add to your tree there is a function to highlight on each individual ancestor that you have spent a considerable time on research and for anyone attempting to add or change to be aware of that fact but they can ignore it but I still think it is a valuable addition to have familysearch I hope you can persevere and put up with it as it can help others locating data and information to help them get started even if there is a high percentage of false/misleading and useless additions added by others. garngad
Title: Re: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: Zaphod99 on Friday 05 July 24 12:29 BST (UK)
I was going to start a new thread about a new YouTube film by James Tanner of FS, but I'll mention it here instead.

The Ten Most Annoying Habits of FamilySearch Family Tree Users – James Tanner (30 Jun 2024) New this week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOWgEolt7-g&t=1313s

It really makes you think! Tanner is such a good teacher, soothing voice, wisdom & common sense, rather than a shrieky would be game show host like most of the others.

Zaph
Title: Re: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: Talacharn on Saturday 06 July 24 10:50 BST (UK)
On Family Search there is a tree linking to my family, but with a few blank branches. I added some information and then made a mistake. The male I added married the daughter who was illegitimate; and I placed him marrying her mother. Although I have now placed him correctly, I have not found a way of removing the mistake, or contacting Family Search. I could have added more, but gave up instead.
Title: Re: Help with familysearch online tree
Post by: MollyC on Saturday 06 July 24 11:58 BST (UK)
I don't use FS trees much, but recently I made a point of linking the two parts of a family in England and in Canada, because one Canadian entry had a birth Ireland which was not correct.  Then I made a mistake elsewhere confusing father and son with the same first name.  I corrected it but could not remove the incorrect source, so left a note about it.

When I eventually went back to the other person, I found something to the effect of "This event is connected to someone else, do you want to unconnect it?" so eventually I removed the note.

It is difficult to keep the whole picture in your mind.  It is all strictly logical, but too clever by half!

On another matter relating to messaging, I had managed to contact them at: eu_support@familysearch.org