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Title: William George RICHARDSON 1841-
Post by: Bitzer1 on Monday 27 May 24 22:39 BST (UK)
I would appreciate any help in tracing William George Richardson (1841-), son of William Richardson (1797-1869) and Elizabeth Bunker (1798-1853). William George Richardson was born in Plymouth in 1841.  The 1851 census records him living with his parents at 43 Richmond Street, Plymouth.  I have not found a record of him thereafter.  Army pension records show that his father moved from Plymouth to Bristol in February in 1860 and then permanently relocated from Bristol to Cork in September 1860.  His father died in Queenstown, Cork, Ireland in February 1869.   
Title: Re: William George RICHARDSON 1841-
Post by: amondg on Tuesday 28 May 24 07:22 BST (UK)
There is a William Richardson 18 -Lodger - Seaman HMS with William Sitters Family in Plymouth.  1861 census

His age is wrong s/b 20.

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NOT THIS ONE
1871 he is still with the same family - Seaman born Maidestone Kent.
Title: Re: William George RICHARDSON 1841-
Post by: amondg on Tuesday 28 May 24 07:34 BST (UK)
The National Archives has a file for William Richardson born 25 February 1842 Plymouth Devon
Signed up 18 November 1857.

Your William was registered March quarter 1841, is it possible his DOB is on year out.

Service number 35124

If you have a copy of his birth certificate it will give his actual date of birth. If it's 25 February 1841 instead of 1842, then I expect it's the same man.
Title: Re: William George RICHARDSON 1841-
Post by: amondg on Tuesday 28 May 24 07:35 BST (UK)
Do you have his brother also William George Richardson born 1839  died 1839 Plymouth

His sister Maria born 1843 died 1844 Plymouth.
Title: Re: William George RICHARDSON 1841-
Post by: Bitzer1 on Tuesday 28 May 24 13:47 BST (UK)
Many thanks Amondg for your replies.  Yes, he had an older brother also William George Richardson who was born and died 1839 in Plymouth.  I did not know about his sister Maria born 1843 Plymouth and died there age 0 in 1844.  Maria's GRO birth record lists her mother's maiden name as Bunker, which confirms the link.  Maria's baptism and burial records on Family Search both give her address as Cambridge Street which matches the 1841 census for her parents and siblings. 

On GRO, I also found an older sister also Maria who died age 2 in 1838.  Her burial record on Family Search also gives her address as Cambridge Street, so that ties in.  I have not found her baptism.

Unfortunately, I do not have William George Richardson born 1841's birth certificate.  I have not found his baptismal record that might also have included his date of birth. 

Thank you for suggesting the National Archives file, which I have now looked at.  It would not surprise me if living in Plymouth he had joined the navy.  His father had been a long-term soldier.

 
Title: Re: William George RICHARDSON 1841-
Post by: amondg on Friday 31 May 24 15:38 BST (UK)
The family named Spink(s) listed before the Richardson family 1841 census.

Mary Spinks was Mary Ann Bunker, who married William Henry Spinks 9 October 1829 at Holbeton Devon, it's likely she is a sister to Elizabeth.
Title: Re: William George RICHARDSON 1841-
Post by: DOB7 on Friday 31 May 24 18:17 BST (UK)
He was baptised at Plymouth St Andrew, as William John RICHARDSON 6 Jun 1841, son of William & Elizabeth of Cambridge Street, father a labourer.
Title: Re: William George RICHARDSON 1841-
Post by: Bitzer1 on Friday 31 May 24 19:45 BST (UK)
Many thanks for your replies, which have opened up new branches to follow.  Baptismal records show that Elizabeth Richardson (nee Bunker) and Mary Ann Spinks (nee Bunker) had the same parents John and Ann Bunker, and so were sisters.

GRO has Mary's son William Henry Spinks born 1841, with mmn Bunker.

Below the 6 June 1841 baptismal record for William John Richardson is one on the same day for William Henry Spink(e)s, parents William and Mary Ann Spink(e)s of Cambridge Street.  Spink(e)s's occupation is too feint to read.  The 16 October 1846 baptismal record for William and Mary Ann Spinks's son Frederic Thomas Spinks lists the father's occupation as carpenter and address Cambridge Street.  The GRO birth registration for Frederick Thomas Spinks lists the mmn as Bunker.

It all ties together.   
Title: Re: William George RICHARDSON 1841-
Post by: amondg on Saturday 01 June 24 03:18 BST (UK)
A little off the main subject.
John Bunker married Ann Lethbridge 1 October 1802
Children so far
Mary Ann born 3 August 1803 bap 14th
William born 1 February 1806 bap 16th
John born 28 September 1808 bap 9 October 1808
Thomas born 1 June 1811 bap 16th
Elizabeth born 19 July 1815 bap 30th
Title: Re: William George RICHARDSON 1841-
Post by: Bitzer1 on Saturday 01 June 24 12:28 BST (UK)
Thanks Amondg.  I am also interested in tracing the Bunkers back as well.  However, I had got no further back than Elizabeth Richardson's parents John and Ann Bunker because there were several John Bunkers, and John and Ann Bunkers in that part of Devon then.

The marriage you found of John Bunker and Ann Lethbridge on 1 October 1802 in Holcombe, Devon, certainly places them as the parents of Mary Ann Bunker (1802-1848). 

However, according to the 1851 census Elizabeth Bunker, the wife of William Richardson (1797-1869) was born in Wembury, Devon c 1799.  She died age 54 in June 1853, Plympton St Mary Union. Elizabeth, dau of John and Ann Bunker, was baptised on June 11 1798 in Wembury, Devon.

I am not sure what to make of this.  It could be that Elizabeth Bunker (1798-1853) and Mary Ann Bunker (1802-1848) were related but not sisters.

John Bunker married Ann Cleave on 14 June 1790 at St. Werburgh's Church, Wembury, Devon.  They had eight children baptised in Wembury:
Mary Bunker 1791-1792
John Bunker 1793-1844
Mary Bunker 1796-1797
Elizabeth Bunker 1798-1853, married William Richardson on 15 July 1819, East Stonehouse Devon
Sally Hickson Bunker 1802-
Mary Bunker 1805-1881
William Bunker 1807-1811
William Bunker 1811-1883

I would welcome any thoughts and suggestions.
Title: Re: William George RICHARDSON 1841-
Post by: amondg on Saturday 01 June 24 14:31 BST (UK)
Good find.

Did son William marry Mary Proctor 1840  they had a son John Avery Bunker 1841 who joined the Navy.
Mary Bunker's death 1844 age 24

William then married Jane Williams widow nee Tamlin 28 December 1845. She had previously married Samuel Williams 1837
Title: Re: William George RICHARDSON 1841-
Post by: Bitzer1 on Saturday 01 June 24 18:35 BST (UK)
Thanks Amondg.  I also have this.  The 1841 census records William and Mary Bunker and his mother Ann Bunker in Down Thomas, Wembury, either living with or close to Ann Avery and her four children.  Similarly, the 1851 census lists William and Jane Bunker, son John, and Ann Bunker next to Thomas and Ann Avery and their children in Down Thomas.  I suppose that explains the name William Avery Bunker, and suggests a possible family connection between the Bunkers and Averys.  The 1871 census has visitor Albert Avery age 7 with William and Jane Bunker in Gabber, Wembury.  Albert was still with them in the 1881 census, listed as nephew.  Listed near them in the 1871 census Mary A Avery and her nephew William.  Albert Edward Avery was baptised on 24 Apr 1864, parents Samuel and Jane Avery.  GRO records his mmn as Parsons.

Samuel Avery and Jane Parsons had married in 1855 and also had a son named Samuel Bunker Avery in 1869, who joined the navy in 1888.
Title: Re: William George RICHARDSON 1841-
Post by: Bitzer1 on Monday 03 June 24 16:56 BST (UK)
Amondg, I have obtained William George Richardson's birth certificate, which lists his dob as 25 January 1841.  While that is different from William Richardson, who enlisted in the navy, and was born in Plymouth on 25 February 1842, I have not found a birth registration for William Richardson in GRO for the Plymouth area during 1842.